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Posted on 12/13/18 at 1:49 am to JuiceTerry
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Jesus He was absolutely convicted and sentenced after pleading guilty to 9 charges, 5 of which were for tax evasion
Sorry, but no he was not.
con·vict
verb
past tense: convicted; past participle: convicted
/k?n'vikt/
declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a jury, or the decision of a judge in a court of law.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 2:16 am to Hamma1122
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So he’s going to jail for nothing
Lol. Yeah thats probably it.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 2:43 am to PhDoogan
I couldn’t give less of a frick about campaign finance violations if I tried to. If this is the big gotcha the left has after all these years it’s just pathetic. I’m pretty sure every presidential campaign has violated some somewhere. Obama sure as hell did but you didn’t see anyone threatening him with massive jail time over it. It’s such a joke
Posted on 12/13/18 at 4:31 am to BamaAtl
quote:Prosecutors had him six-ways-from-Sunday on various personal charges. He plead "guilty" to a noncrime in hopes doing so would soften sentencing recommendations. You and others here know that.
Cohen admitted to violating them at the direction of Trump of his own free will in open court.
Cohen would have "admitted" to being sodomized by Hitler if he thought that would get him a better plea deal.
Had the issue gone to trial, the campaign finance charge would have been dropped faster than shite from a flying flock of pigeons. You and others here know that too.
The attorney who included the charge in Cohen's agreement is rogue. Laney Davis, the attorney representing Cohen likely encouraged its inclusion. Davis is a partisan democrat hack. He seemed to put that fact first, and duties as Cohen's attorney second.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:26 am to NC_Tigah
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He plead "guilty" to a noncrime
No, he plead guilty to an actual crime. That's why he's going to be spending 3 years behind bars.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:33 am to BamaAtl
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No, he plead guilty to an actual crime. That's why he's going to be spending 3 years behind bars.
People keep forgetting that Cohen pleaded guilty to a JUDGE. The JUDGE then decides if the evidence meets with the applicable legal code before accepting the plea.
It is impossible to plead guilty to and be imprisoned something that is not a crime.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:31 am to BamaAtl
quote:No he pled guilty to many crimes. Meanwhile, to placate rogue prosecutors, Cohen also pled guilty to a noncrime solely designed to implicate the Trump Campaign. That's why he's ONLY going to be spending 3 years behind bars.
No, he plead guilty to an actual crime.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 9:32 am to 007tiger
quote:100% False
It is impossible to plead guilty to and be imprisoned something that is not a crime.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:13 am to DawgfaninCa
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Agreeing to plead guilty to a violation of Campaign Finance laws in order to save your arse from going to jail for 30 years doesn't mean Campaign Finance laws were actually proven to be violated.
Exactly. The prosecutor dangles it out in front of Cohen on top of he other stuff that had to do mostly with taxes and a bullshite loan fraud charge and then offers him a deal of a lesser sentence and a sentencing recommendation but all of this is contingent on pleading guilty to a campaign finance violation or else the deal is off the table and then Cohen takes his chances with da judge. They had him cold on the non related stuff.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:21 am to 007tiger
Was Cohen an official member of the Trump campaign because I don't see his name listed? I do see him as a Vice President of the Trump Organization. As such he has specific duties in that capacity. If he pas off Stormy with his own funds and is reimbursed by the Trump Organization through funds from the Trump Organization, AND he has a history of presenting NDA's on behalf of his boss then I'm not seeing it .
While going around presenting NDA's to paramours may be a bit sleazy, it's hardly against the law. How they twisted this into an in kind campaign contribution is very suspect
While going around presenting NDA's to paramours may be a bit sleazy, it's hardly against the law. How they twisted this into an in kind campaign contribution is very suspect
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:32 am to EA6B
quote:Don't be an idiot. The judge took his plea, convicted him, and sentenced him.
Sorry, but no he was not.
con·vict
verb
past tense: convicted; past participle: convicted
/k?n'vikt/
declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a jury, or the decision of a judge in a court of law.
Jesus
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:34 am to James1960
quote:
You guys can scream at the sky all you want
Lol trying to own it ehh?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:36 am to PhDoogan
Cohen Didn’t Violate Campaign Finance Laws, and Neither Did Trump--
Considering you have no idea the evidence Mueller has, it's stupid and very GOP'y of you to make that claim. Cohen's attorney's knew he was screwed and that's why he pled...
But you Trumpkins keep defending your anti-American, Russia owned puppet. It suits your traitors well.
Considering you have no idea the evidence Mueller has, it's stupid and very GOP'y of you to make that claim. Cohen's attorney's knew he was screwed and that's why he pled...
But you Trumpkins keep defending your anti-American, Russia owned puppet. It suits your traitors well.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:44 am to Strannix
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quote:
How can Cohen or anyone else involved in these payments be charged with a “knowing and willful” violation of the law by facilitating these payments when numerous campaign finance lawyers, federal election commissioners, and the Federal Election Commission itself have all publicly opined that such payments do not violate the law in the first place?
I don't know anything about campaign finance law, but I do know criminal law and I think the author slipped up there. In criminal law, the "knowing and willful" elements of a crime apply to the underlying acts, not whether the actor knew that the actions were illegal. (i.e., "ignorance of the law is no excuse"). The question should be whether Trump knowingly and willfully directed payments be made to these women in order to benefit his presidential campaign regardless of whether he knew such an action would violate the campaign laws.
That said, its still not clear whether it violates the campaign laws, and if it ever came before a judge the unclear nature of the law would be considered in both the trial phase and the sentencing.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:59 am to JuiceTerry
quote:
Don't be an idiot. The judge took his plea, convicted him, and sentenced him.
Jesus
For violating campaign finance laws? I missed that, can you link it?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:06 pm to junkfunky
quote:Among other things
For violating campaign finance laws?
quote:For you, this once
I missed that, can you link it?
quote:
Cohen pleaded guilty to the charges in August, which included five for tax evasion and one count each of excessive campaign contribution, unlawful corporate contribution and false statements to a bank.
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