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re: Cohen claims Trump instructed him to lie to congress

Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:17 am to
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4451 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:17 am to
“There was a good chance that I wouldn’t have won, in which case I would have gotten back into the business, and why should I lose lots of opportunities?” -Donald Trump

The potential deal was worth well over 300 million dollars. If the article is true, everything makes sense now.

Trump didnt think he could win, was setting up for a huge pay day. Was running against a nutcase in Clinton that no one liked and messed around and won. Then woke up and realized damn all of this messy crap we were doing could come back to bite me. I gotta try and clean it up.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:22 am to
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Primarily used by the right.


Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23750 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:23 am to
Doesn’t mater, all politician are crooked. So far Trump has been a fantastic President.
I regret not voting for him last time, but he’ll definitely get my vote if he runs again.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:25 am to
The $300 million already debunked. LINK
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:30 am to
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Can you cite the law please.


quote:

Whoever procures another to commit any perjury is guilty of subornation of perjury, and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.


18 U.S. Code § 1622 - Subornation of perjury

And here it is in the Nixon Obstruction of Justice article of impeachment:

quote:

approving, condoning, acquiescing in, and counselling witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted judicial and congressional proceedings;


Watergate Articles of Impeachment, article 1, item 3



Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:40 am to
Then what is Mueller waiting on?

And why the hell did he not change Cohen with obstruction? That is a much better charge to loop Trump in, instead of a feckless process crime.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:42 am to
Is this the one Doc? Do y’all have him this time?!?!
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:43 am to
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Buzzfeed?

You mean the Dossier releaser?

Yep...brimming with legitimacy.


Cormier and Leopold reported back in May 2018 that Michael Cohen and Felix Sater's work on Trump Tower Moscow had gone on much longer than the January 2016 date that Cohen testified that it had to Congress.

Trump Moscow: The Definitive Story Of How Trump’s Team Worked The Russian Deal During The Campaign

and 7 months later...

Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty to Lying to Congress



Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:45 am to
1). Doing business with russianisnt illegal.
2). Is this it? Do you have him?
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41550 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:46 am to
Cohen was his lawyer. Trump could say fix the god damn problem. It is Cohen's responsibility to stay within the law not Trump's. Not in any way shape or form.

If he ordered Cohen to break the law, that is another thing but given the fact Cohen taped everything, if Trump was on tape telling him to break the law. Mueller would already have wrapped up his report 6 months ago.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:47 am to
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Then what is Mueller waiting on?

And why the hell did he not change Cohen with obstruction? That is a much better charge to loop Trump in, instead of a feckless process crime.


You need to think bigger here, Gumbo.

Why were they bothering to conspire to lie about Trump Tower to Congress here?

Why not say to Congress that the Trump Tower deal went on through the duration of the campaign (as Rudy Guiliani has later implied)?
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 12:48 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59471 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:50 am to
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Why were they bothering to conspire to lie about Trump Tower to Congress here?


Arguing facts not in evidence.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:50 am to
quote:

1). Doing business with russianisnt illegal.
2). Is this it? Do you have him?


It certainly isn't illegal as long as it's not part of a larger crime. So I'll ask you the same question I asked Gumbo - why do you think they're covering their tracks on this?
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23488 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 12:55 am to
I find it hard to believe that Trump came out and told someone to lie to Congress. This story seems like fake news.

I could see the organization doing a PR campaign to minimize emphasis on something, but they aren’t going to document about something so absolutely stupid.

On top of that it is hilarious the bending over backwards to “get” Trump when it is clear as day the law breaking and corruption by all these career politicians. It should scare the shite out of the American people the corruption of the political world so blatantly in the open
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98211 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:01 am to
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TigerDoc


Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:16 am to
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I could see the organization doing a PR campaign to minimize emphasis on something, but they aren’t going to document about something so absolutely stupid.



There's an operative line from All the President's Men here:

Forget the myths that the media's created about the [Trump org]. These are not very bright guys and things got a little out of hand.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:18 am to
Hahahahaha

Same people who believe this shite sneer at the q thread
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30512 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:18 am to
quote:

Primarily used by the right.


Note I was saying the term is primarily used by the right.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90063 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:24 am to
This Cohen tape is on mueller’s shelf next to omarosa’s N word tape

Just holding on to them for later right?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108980 posts
Posted on 1/18/19 at 3:55 am to
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List 3


Carter Page Russian meetings
Diplomat Mikhail Kalugin spy under surveillance
Flynn speaking to Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak about lifting sanctions.


So you can't come up with 3?
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