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re: CNN Can Not Understand Why We Can Not Arrest The Drug Runners and Bring Them to Trial.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 3:20 pm to bluewatersailor
Posted on 12/8/25 at 3:20 pm to bluewatersailor
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bluewatersailor
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 3:24 pm to bluewatersailor
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Why are you on an LSU site?
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you are a special kind of stupid.
It's awesome when people answer their own questions.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:39 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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Apparently, quite a few people hold you in rather low regard.
In reality the vast majority of folks on this board as well as its administration hold you in poor regard. There was a reason that the Admin of this site banned you and it is obvious you are now using alters to continue your incessant condescending bullshite, which you obviously spend an inordinate time doing so daily. Just a matter of time that you are banned again.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 5:45 pm to phutureisyic
Especially when Donnie is pardoning them on the reg.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:11 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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Provision of "due process" is a Constitutional OBLIGATION of the US government.
Explain due process in Afghanistan or any Iraq or Iran or any other Middle East country - or international waters???
You really are a pretentious dolt
Also / you never answered in 11 pages where it is in the constitution specifically which was violated
Posted on 12/8/25 at 6:31 pm to wackatimesthree
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lower courts already ruled that Trump's "narcoterrorism" justifications are not covered under the Alien Enemies Act.
Is there a court opinion forbidding this administration from shooting at these boats in international waters? Have not seen it
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:33 pm to TX Tiger
quote:I don't know how many times the dog has to wait on the shore before it figures out that his drug running owner is not coming back for him.
I don't know how many times Lucy has to pull the ball away from Charlie Brown before he figures out that she's not going to hold it for him.
PETA has entered the room.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 7:45 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
RelentlessAnalysis
Leary's argument was basically "It is effective." Yes, it is certainly that. It is also illegal and unconstitutional.
You people seem to be OK with that.
The constitution does NOT apply to NON CITIZENS. They are not citizens of the USA and therefore are not protected by nor have any rights guaranteed (NOT granted) to American Citizens. Period. They are foreign criminals attempting to bring poisonous substances into our country. F them and F you too if you don’t like it. Move to Venezuela and volunteer to guard them and assist in their activities and see how that works out for you.
Leary's argument was basically "It is effective." Yes, it is certainly that. It is also illegal and unconstitutional.
You people seem to be OK with that.
The constitution does NOT apply to NON CITIZENS. They are not citizens of the USA and therefore are not protected by nor have any rights guaranteed (NOT granted) to American Citizens. Period. They are foreign criminals attempting to bring poisonous substances into our country. F them and F you too if you don’t like it. Move to Venezuela and volunteer to guard them and assist in their activities and see how that works out for you.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:14 pm to Beaux Man
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They are foreign criminals attempting to bring poisonous substances into our country
The Caribbean boats are taking it to Trinidad. So, you're blowing up civilians of another country 1,500 or whatever miles away on the assumption those drugs will make their way to the U.S. -- which, may not even be correct in the first place if they get shipped to Europe.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:43 pm to Beaux Man
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The constitution does NOT apply to NON CITIZENS. They are not citizens of the USA and therefore are not protected by nor have any rights guaranteed (NOT granted) to American Citizens. Period.
This part is incorrect. The constitution most certainly applies to non-citizens. But those protections end at the border. I dont think it even applies to US citizens outside of the US. If I go to Afghanistan and join the Taliban the USG is under no obligation to give me due process on the battlefield. That’s why we sent all the terrorists to Gitmo instead of prisons here in the US. Once they’re on US soil they’re afforded all of the protections of the Constitution.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:45 pm to Bunk Moreland
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The Caribbean boats are taking it to Trinidad. So, you're blowing up civilians of another country 1,500 or whatever miles away on the assumption those drugs will make their way to the U.S. -- which, may not even be correct in the first place if they get shipped to Europe.
This is all pretty irrelevant. We can kill terrorists if we think they’re headed to Europe to conduct an attack. We can kill pirates in international waters even if the boats they are attacking aren’t US flagged. This isn’t any different.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:48 pm to dafif
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Is there a court opinion forbidding this administration from shooting at these boats in international waters? Have not seen it
Nope, hasn't gone to court yet.
But the justification they will use when it does has already been shot down by the lower courts.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:52 pm to wackatimesthree
You are anticipating an argument that is nowhere applicable
This is a military operation - this is no different than invading Iraq
Congress can stop it but the courts do not have that authority
ETA - for 11 pages they have argued it's unconstitutional yet no authority for support even though I asked - typical
This is a military operation - this is no different than invading Iraq
Congress can stop it but the courts do not have that authority
ETA - for 11 pages they have argued it's unconstitutional yet no authority for support even though I asked - typical
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:57 pm to dafif
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This is a military operation - this is no different than invading Iraq
The fact that the administration is invoking the Alien Enemies Act means that Trump thinks it's different than invading Iraq. We didn't invoke that Act when we invaded Iraq, did we?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:03 pm to wackatimesthree
Do you have statement that in this specific action we are invoking the alien enemies act? TK shoot drug boats ? I have not seen that
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:27 pm to Bunk Moreland
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The Caribbean boats are taking it to Trinidad.
What? It meaning fresh red snapper? After all, I have been told relentlessly that these targeted boats are fishing vessels?
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:55 am to wackatimesthree
FDR needed war and FDR made sure we got war. Meanwhile, the carrier groups were out and about, away from the aerial bombing that occurred at the Pearl Harbor port.
FDR was and always will be a POS!!
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:10 pm to dafif
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Do you have statement that in this specific action we are invoking the alien enemies act? TK shoot drug boats ? I have not seen that
In March the administration invoked the AEA to militarily target members of TdA, which they had declared a terrorist organization in February, and also to deport Venezuelans in America suspected of ties with TdA. TdA is a Venezuelan gang, if you didn't know. I suspect you can see the common thread here.
This is a tactic Trump has used before, btw. During his first term he classified Iran's military as a terrorist organization. He does this because his legal team thinks that it allows him to take any action he wants against the designated entities apart from Congress or any other authority. They think it is a loophole/end run/whatever you want to call it to side-step the War Powers Act. Which is also why the constitutionality of all of this is suspect/in question.
If you're going to say that these are military operations, then you're binding yourself to the WPA and you have 48 hours to notify Congress and only 60 days before you have to withdraw the operation if Congress doesn't approve/declare war.
Trump's legal team thinks the AEA is the answer to that pesky WPA.
Here's my thing. Trump is certainly not the first POTUS to find some way to ignore the WPA. It's basically become normal and frankly, we ought to either follow it, or just stop pretending and get rid of it.
But as far as I know, he's the first to use the US military against international organized crime. So he's going to face scrutiny for this.
Whether anyone likes it or not, whether anyone thinks it's good or bad, Trump is pushing very hard—harder than any POTUS in my lifetime—to expand executive powers.
He'll be successful with some efforts and unsuccessful with others. And he'll face a lot of opposition along the way. That's to be expected with something like this.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:12 pm to Timeoday
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FDR needed war and FDR made sure we got war.
That's great, moron.
The evidence says otherwise, but who gives frick about evidence when there's a great conspiracy theory to be had? In fact, for idiots like yourself, the lack of evidence proves that the theory is correct, right? Shows just how deep the conspiracy went.
Amarite fellas? Amarite?
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:30 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:incorrect.
During his first term he classified Iran's military as a terrorist organization. He does this because his legal team thinks that it allows him to take any action he wants against the designated entities
He re-designated the nation of Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism (Obama removed to make signing the JCPOA legal) AND designated the IRGC, who reports to the clerics and not the state's military structure, as a terrorist organization.
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