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re: Clinesmith hearing currently occurring: pleading guilty

Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74190 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:40 pm to
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He better be F'n cooperating....but I don't see that happening based on his bs "at the time" statement



He is cooperating, otherwise he would have been charged with a more significant prime
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18753 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Ivan Pentchoukov @IvanPentchoukov
Judge sets sentencing hearing for Kevin Clinesmith for December 10 at 11 a.m.



Yep - this is a dead end. If he had to testify against a bigger fish, they wouldn’t move to sentencing. He would need to fulfill his obligation.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138925 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:40 pm to
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He clearly ratted or they wouldn't give in this easily.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167482 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31585 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Yep - this is a dead end. If he had to testify against a bigger fish, they wouldn’t move to sentencing. He would need to fulfill his obligation.

Sentencing is Dec.10. He has agreed to cooperate. We'll know Dec. 10 if he actually did.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167482 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17300 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:46 pm to
This was the most significant part I thought

quote:

Clinesmith plea agreement: government will not prosecute Clinesmith for any other conduct stated in the statement of offense (not yet public.)
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80526 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Only if you assume that the doj is trying to bring down the hammer of justice.

What if this is business as usual, and clinesmith is just the fall guy on this one?



You don't give the fall guy the possibility of no prison time.
Posted by BlueDogTiger
Member since Jan 2014
1444 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:47 pm to
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Judge asks if Clinesmith knew that the statement "not a source" was "not in fact true."

Clinesmith says he thought at the time that the statement was true, but admits to altering email.


So he has the email from the CIA saying its not true.....but he changes because he thinks otherwise? If this scum gets off we are all screwed
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74190 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:47 pm to
Yep, that is literal proof that he is cooperating.

Wet rags on here are unbearable

I want to go their homes and shite on their doorsteps
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17300 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:47 pm to
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Clinesmith says he thought at the time that the statement was true, but admits to altering email.


Then why did you have to change the email? My god these people . . .
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Sentencing is Dec.10.

Something important is going to take place between now and December 10.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80526 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:48 pm to
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So he has the email from the CIA saying its not true.....but he changes because he thinks otherwise? If this scum gets off we are all screwed


My guess is Peter Strozck is fricked. Not sure if anyone else above him goes down. We know Peter and Kevin had a conversation about this information.
Posted by Nono
Member since Nov 2017
4820 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:49 pm to
I guess I’ll go get lunch at Hooters and drown my disappointment in iced tea & a few chicken wings.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50000 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:49 pm to
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Wasnt this board melting yesterday that he wasnt pleading guilty?


Yeah, I'm tempted to pull up one or two threads just to PROVE what complete bullshite artists a couple folks here really are.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50000 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:51 pm to
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Bull shite.



He clearly ratted or they wouldn't give in this easily.





Don't forget. The sentencing guideline can be adjusted. The old "carrot and stick" routine.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31585 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:54 pm to
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Something important is going to take place between now and December 10.

Yes, it is, but I am thinking things will be continuing on the current path. I also think Clinesmith's singing, should be done in the next 2 weeks.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167482 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:56 pm to
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Something important is going to take place between now and December 10.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167482 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:02 pm to
Sidney Powell was questioning KC's lawyer talking out of both sides of his mouth. And rightfully so.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90625 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:06 pm to
One of Rexcatur's heroes. Somewhere Rexcatur weeps
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