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Climate change means nearly all glaciers in the Alps may disappear

Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:59 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:59 am
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Around 95 per cent of glaciers in the Alps will be wiped out by the end of the century if the world continues pumping out carbon emissions at the current rate.


Here is a little better perspective of the impact of man on the climate:



But the article continues:

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That is the stark warning from research using a more realistic way of modelling how ice will react to rising temperatures due to climate change.

Such a dramatic change would pose natural hazards such as flooding, a huge reduction in hydropower output and be a blow for the region’s tourism industry, say the Swiss team behind the work.


So that ( LINK) article was published today. Did they not just take a slight glance at the current snow levels in the Alps?

Today in the Alps:

France:

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There were moderate to huge snowfalls in France to end last week too, transforming slope conditions here also after weeks of sunny, spring weather. The snowfall has eased off a little in some places but kept dumping down in others, particularly on Sunday, bringing still bigger accumulations as we move towards mid-April. Some of the biggest reported 24-hour snowfalls included a metre on upper slopes at Serre Chevalier (35/300cm) and 70cm at La Grave (90/170cm). Previous thawing had taken upper slope base depth down below three metres in France but by the weekend a dozen areas reported their bases had gone back above that magic ten-foot mark, led by Avoriaz (180/340cm). Valley depths, sometimes more important at this time of year, were also boosted with Chamonix (25/290cm) climbing up from zero to 25cm. It is still snowing in France and La Plagne (120/225cm) posted 14cm of fresh snow on Monday. Chamonix too got another 10cm.


Switzerland:
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Switzerland had the world’s deepest snowpacks a week ago and that has not changed in the last 7 days, it just got a lot deeper with Engelberg (80/730cm), as mentioned in our introduction, becoming the first in the world this year and this ski season to pass the 7 metre snow depth mark.



Italy:
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Italy has seen some of the biggest snowfalls in Europe over the past week, with the little known resort of San Domenico di Varzo (40/400cm) in the country’s western Piemont region claiming it received over two metres (306cm/nearly seven feet) of snowfall in 72 hours to Friday – the most in the world this week.


It seems that all observable evidence indicates that the glaciers in the Alps are doing just fine.

In fact snow levels (which impact glaciers) in the northern hemisphere are on a clear upward trend:



LINK
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94128 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:00 am to
Didnt they just report that the amount Polar Bears have like doubled

Muh global climate warming change
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22811 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:02 am to
In the late 80's, we were told New Orleans would be underwater and I would have beachfront property along Highway 22 by 2015.
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 10:07 am
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2072 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:05 am to
snowpack and glaciers aren’t the same thing
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:05 am to
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Muh global climate warming change



Gonna use that.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:06 am to
They cannot get the weather report for 5 days correct but we are to believe them on a one hundred year forecast. OK then.

P.S.
I don't care. I will not be around then and I have no kids. Spend your own money, time, and efforts to your hearts content but keep your damned hands out of my money!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:06 am to
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snowpack and glaciers aren’t the same thing


As I noted in the OP:

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snow levels (which impact glaciers)


How are glaciers formed?

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Glaciers begin to form when snow remains in the same area year-round, where enough snow accumulates to transform into ice.


LINK
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 10:09 am
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:08 am to
So when they disappear, how many tons of poop and other trash will be de-thawed?
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:09 am to
The earth's climate continually changes and has since the planet formed eons ago. Why is this natural cycle all of a sudden a bad thing?

And yet, our federal government is still located in a low-lying coastal area that the "experts" say will definitely be underwater in the future due to "ocean rise", and nobody has taken the first step to relocate the capital further inland. I find that peculiar.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:11 am to
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So when they disappear, how many tons of poop and other trash will be de-thawed?


Probably not much. Glaciers continually recycle old water/ice with new water/ice and the trash gets pushed out with the old ice.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:13 am to
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Why is this natural cycle all of a sudden a bad thing?


It's not.

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And yet, our federal government is still located in a low-lying coastal area that the "experts" say will definitely be underwater in the future due to "ocean rise", and nobody has taken the first step to relocate the capital further inland. I find that peculiar.


Even more peculiar are banks and investors that continue to invest in real estate and insurance companies continue to insure this real estate that is subject to to be under 25 feet of water if the Greenland Ice Sheet melts as climate alarmists predict.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94832 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:16 am to
Remember when they told us in the 1970s that we were basically "out" of oil?

Good times...
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Remember when they told us in the 1970s that we were basically "out" of oil?

Good times...


Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
3370 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:25 am to
Oh well.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135779 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:30 am to
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Climate change
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carbon emissions at the current rate
Jumps the shark.


This chart is confusing.
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In simple terms, GHG's account for <40% of the "Greenhouse Effect" (GHE).

Water vapor is far and away the most potent GHE contributor (>60% on average). Water vapor is not technically a GHG though, and so is often not cited in GHG component tabulations.

CO2 at 400ppm is thought to account for up to 60% of the remaining <40% non-H2O-related GHE, or roughly 24% of the overall GHE. The accepted non-anthropogenic atmospheric CO2 level is estimated at 280-300ppm. With atmospheric CO2 levels at ~400ppm, anthropogenic contribution can be estimated at 100-120ppm. That number represents roughly 7% of the overall GHE.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23515 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:30 am to
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Didnt they just report that the amount Polar Bears have like doubled

so the existing ones are getting much fatter? I think you meant to say the number of bears has doubled.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
65466 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:36 am to
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Climate change means nearly all glaciers in the Alps may disappear
This is a good thing, right?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:37 am to
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Climate change means nearly all glaciers in the Alps may disappear


Climate change has always been a scam.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135779 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:43 am to
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Climate change has always been a scam.
No! No! It is no scam , and thank goodness for that. We are in an Ice Age after all. None of us would be happy with the climate of 15,000BC if it had not changed.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:45 am to
well here in louisiana i was supposed to be 100% guaranteed to be 20ft under water by 1990, then it was 1999, then it was 2010, then it was 2019........

its about time they move the goal posts again and say here in louisiana i will be 100% guaranteed to be 20ft under water by 2030

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