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re: City of New Orleans, contractors sued by seven victims of 'preventable' Bourbon attack

Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59343 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:09 pm to
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you are too liberal and stupid to understand the bigger picture of tourism, so I'm not even going to attempt to explain it to you.


Who knew liberals don’t think the government is responsible for their safety…

When one can’t defend his position, the safest move is to always call the other person stupid.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35889 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:09 pm to
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Not sure how the contractors are at fault here

They are there so that their insurance companies can be a part of the eventual settlement, because no one is collecting money from the City.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55435 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Seems like it's the govt that should be on the hook. Stating they had materials that were recommended to prevent what happened and didn't do it.

On camera stating she didn't know they had them, but did.

Doesn't seem like a contractor fault.


You are going to be told by the leftists here that this take is wrong, despite the video evidence.

When I started a thread about this topic a week ago right after the infamous interview, the usual suspects completely ignored this valid point and started attacking every other angle of the failure.

"You can't prevent this.....you are attacking wonderful leaders....blah blah blah". Completely missed the point.

I would love to hear the board's favorite lawyer's opinion. I am serious and no sarcasm. When you have city leadership gleefully admitting on camera they failed to use equipment you have, you open yourself up for major liability claims. At least in the eyes of normal, rational people.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154906 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Would not have stopped this guy from killing people.


In securing large crowds the goal isn’t to stop every possibility. It’s to try to keep the most of amount of people as safe as possible.

They failed at that massively by not deploying the tools they had to secure the sidewalks from vehicles.

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55435 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:16 pm to
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In securing large crowds the goal isn’t to stop every possibility. It’s to try to keep the most of amount of people as safe as possible.

They failed at that massively by not deploying the tools they had to secure the sidewalks from vehicles.


You're talking to a wall in this thread.

Rational people understand the guy was going to try and kill people regardless. Rational people also understand the "leadership" of NOLA failed miserably, then gleefully admitted the failures on camera, over and over.

Both can be true and it is obvious in this case it was.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14442 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:18 pm to



They got every right to sue but ………
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22838 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:19 pm to
Yea they had the systems for a reason. It’s the cities fault and contractors fault that they weren’t up and running properly. As usual this was caused by Dems having piss poor planning and being corrupt.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154906 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:22 pm to
Both are true for sure.

I’m not even arguing that NOLA should be sued.

I’m just arguing that they failed on a grand scale. Apparently they fail so much that this isn’t even seen as a big to do.

I can tell you that if those devices weren’t deployed in Jacksonville Florida and this happened there the mayor would be run out of town figuratively.

Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23231 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:24 pm to
The same Hard Rock construction that had a building collapse? That Hard Rock Construction?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55435 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:28 pm to
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I’m just arguing that they failed on a grand scale


Like I said, every leftist on this board will attack you for pointing out the obvious.

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Apparently they fail so much that this isn’t even seen as a big to do.



That was another point I made in my thread after the video came out and I was the one getting attacked. Progressives are so used to their leaders being absolute shite, that even just baseline things like this are always someone else's fault, somehow. It is frightening.

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I can tell you that if those devices weren’t deployed in Jacksonville Florida and this happened there the mayor would be run out of town figuratively.


As a former Democrat voter, I can tell you with certainty you are 1M percent correct.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:50 pm to
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It’s to try to keep the most of amount of people as safe as possible


Bourbon isn't the only street in NO he could have chosen. People are idiots for thinking this could have been avoided.

There are dozens, unprotected and loaded with people. He would have been successful if bourbon would have been closed. Right after the football game would have been far worse.

Then the fricking populists would blame someone other than the killer again. It's a low IQ mentality
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 3:51 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154906 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 3:53 pm to
Larger point.

Devices were available and the chief didn’t know they existed.

Apparently the public safety planners didn’t know either.

The devices were not deployed.

That is a failure in the public safety world.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 4:13 pm to
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Devices were available and the chief didn’t know they existed.


Larger point. Barriers arent saving anyone when you have thousands of other targets. You cant protect them all and its retarded to expect that in a "free" society.

But this is an overly litigious society, and money apparently grows on trees. The citizens of NO will end up paying for it.


Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154906 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 4:16 pm to
I’m in public safety. I won’t argue about this much. Just know that not using those devices was a failure in every measure I can think of.

Everyone I’ve talked to in the industry from cops to corporations says it was a failure.

Not once have I ever said you can stop every possible attack from every angle.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 4:22 pm to
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Just know that not using those devices was a failure in every measure I can think of.


Just would have killed other people in another location.

Then people would have bitched about that.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39907 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 4:24 pm to
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Larger point. Barriers arent saving anyone when you have thousands of other targets. You cant protect them all and its retarded to expect that in a "free" society. But this is an overly litigious society, and money apparently grows on trees. The citizens of NO will end up paying for it.


No one is arguing that.

People expected Bourbon to be pedestrian only. It’s been that way for years.

Large crowds on other streets are watching for traffic.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154906 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 4:25 pm to
Maybe. Why were police units parked blocking bourbon?

Is there a reason they didn’t want cars there?

Was that the highest concentration of fans in the area?

What if I told you those devices will be used for the Super Bowl?

Why would they use them at all?

Come on Roger. NOLA leadership failed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Come on Roger. NOLA leadership failed.


This is why everything becomes so expensive. The never ending blame game and lawyers.

Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44261 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Two things: I wonder who HRC is in bed with in the mayor's office aside from payouts to Latoya?


20 years ago the street I lived on in New Orleans was repaired by Hard Rock, 12 years ago the street my brother lived on in New Orleans was repaired by Hard Rock. That company has been doing business with the city for decades.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154906 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 4:40 pm to
Ok. We will just have to disagree.


But I’m right.
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