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re: Chyna Joe another nail in the oil industry
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:03 am to BiteMe2020
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:03 am to BiteMe2020
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Back when America still followed the Constitution, he'd need to work with Congress to change those policies. And Congress used to not like to forfeit these powers to the Executive Branch, but have increasingly done so, making our Constitution moot.
My understanding is that this change came when congress decided they could not be burdened with actually governing the country and gave the power to agency heads to make policy and if congress did not like the policy they would object through the Congressional Review act that would require a joint resolution.
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Under the CRA, before a rule can take effect, an agency must submit a report to each house of
Congress and the comptroller general containing a copy of the rule; a concise general statement
describing the rule, including whether it is a major rule; and the proposed effective date of the
rule. After receiving the report, Members of Congress have specified time periods during which
they must submit and act on a joint resolution of disapproval to take advantage of the CRA’s
special “fast track” procedures. If both houses pass the resolution, it is sent to the President for
signature or veto. If the President were to veto the resolution, Congress could vote to override the
veto.
So essentially congress gave the powers to the executive branch which then requires a majority vote of both houses to overturn the policy of the executive branch.
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:08 am to arseinclarse
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But Trump was a dictator!!!!!!!!
But xiden is a moderate!!!!!
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:11 am to Barroom
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God, you are such a tool. I don't see how you stand yourself
I do this so I can stand myself. So that I'm not miserable like most of you. I mean, I don't sit around complaining 24/7, and I didn't when Trump was President, either.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:12 am to redeye
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I don't sit around complaining 24/7, and I didn't when Trump was President, either.
Nope, but your boyfriend sure did.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:15 am to redeye
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do this so I can stand myself. So that I'm not miserable like most of you. I mean, I don't sit around complaining 24/7, and I didn't when Trump was President, either.
Spare me the virtue signaling bullshite. There's nothing good or honorable about putting tens of thousands of people out of work causing unnecessary hardship. You're full of it
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:17 am to dstone12
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Look where all this talkin’ got us babaaaaaay
I warned you. I told you what to expect.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 9:20 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:18 am to Barroom
Redeye fashions himself as some kind of intellectual. Read his posts. It’s easy to see he isn’t as bright as he feels he is.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 9:19 am
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:21 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
That's what happens when you are senile and surround yourself with a bunch of woke, radical progressives. They put whatever off the wall shite they want in front of him and tell him to sign it....and he does.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:25 am to loogaroo
In the orders, Biden will call for a pause on new federal oil and gas leases "to the extent possible" and direct the Interior Department to review the program's climate impacts and taxpayer benefits. He will also set a goal to conserve 30% of federal land and waters to protect wildlife by 2030.
The orders will impact large swathes of acreage onshore in mostly Western states, as well as offshore drilling acreage located mainly in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico, which combined make up about a quarter of the nation's oil and gas supply.
Fishing both recreational and commercial in large areas of the Gulf of Mexico are about to become no-fishing sanctuary areas.
The orders will impact large swathes of acreage onshore in mostly Western states, as well as offshore drilling acreage located mainly in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico, which combined make up about a quarter of the nation's oil and gas supply.
Fishing both recreational and commercial in large areas of the Gulf of Mexico are about to become no-fishing sanctuary areas.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:29 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Money has to be approved by Congress. How is he going to get the money for some of these EO’s?
Congress won’t challenge or even bring the EO’s onto the floor to become law, because they don’t want to be on record voting for or against these issue’s. Same thing happened to Trump his first 2 years when Paul Ryan was speaker.
Trump signed the EO for the Keystone XL pipeline in 2017. Republicans held both houses and could have easily approved it, but choose not to bring it to the floor.
Did the GOP screw this up and allow Biden to stop the pipeline or am I wrong about that? Did the same thing happen with the Wall?
All president’s are going to have to use EO’s on stuff they want or promised because Congress can’t get things done and don’t want to take responsibility on controversial issues.
EO’s give the president a lot of power and Congress won’t hold them accountable.
It doesn’t matter what Biden signs or Trump signed Congress won’t challenge it on the floor because they are all talk.
There is more things that Biden will sign that will change what Trump signed and some we won’t know about.
Congress won’t challenge or even bring the EO’s onto the floor to become law, because they don’t want to be on record voting for or against these issue’s. Same thing happened to Trump his first 2 years when Paul Ryan was speaker.
Trump signed the EO for the Keystone XL pipeline in 2017. Republicans held both houses and could have easily approved it, but choose not to bring it to the floor.
Did the GOP screw this up and allow Biden to stop the pipeline or am I wrong about that? Did the same thing happen with the Wall?
All president’s are going to have to use EO’s on stuff they want or promised because Congress can’t get things done and don’t want to take responsibility on controversial issues.
EO’s give the president a lot of power and Congress won’t hold them accountable.
It doesn’t matter what Biden signs or Trump signed Congress won’t challenge it on the floor because they are all talk.
There is more things that Biden will sign that will change what Trump signed and some we won’t know about.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:36 am to GumboPot
quote:I've got some clients that would love to know where to find them.
What subsidies?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:38 am to GumboPot
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What subsidies?
ALL subsidies that can be legally cut by law. ALL of them!
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:40 am to fwtex
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So essentially congress gave the powers to the executive branch which then requires a majority vote of both houses to overturn the policy of the executive branch.
The "nondelegation power" concept needs to be revised.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:43 am to Taxing Authority
They have to be talking about the tax breaks (IDC). I also think there are some cost recovery breaks on Fed lands around royalty.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 9:53 am to GumboPot
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That ain't happening under an EO. That is tax law. Congress needs to make those changes. And those legal corporate structures are not subsides. FWIW, those corporate structures were set up to incentivize energy companies to bring reliable energy to consumers. Renewable energy producers can participate in those corporate structures too. It's not limited to just O&G energy providers.
Quaint. You think the law still matters. I understand and agree with your position on principal, I just don't think it matters anymore. He will EO whatever he wants and Roberts will go along if it ever reaches the USSC.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 10:58 am to MrLSU
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In the orders, Biden will call for a pause on new federal oil and gas leases "to the extent possible" and direct the Interior Department to review the program's climate impacts and taxpayer benefits. He will also set a goal to conserve 30% of federal land and waters to protect wildlife by 2030.
The orders will impact large swathes of acreage onshore in mostly Western states, as well as offshore drilling acreage located mainly in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico, which combined make up about a quarter of the nation's oil and gas supply.
Fishing both recreational and commercial in large areas of the Gulf of Mexico are about to become no-fishing sanctuary areas.
Post a link. I'm about to set the outdoor board on fire.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:02 am to GumboPot
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The article doesn't even describe the subsidies. I work in the O&G industry. When you find those subsidies let me know.
I think this is just a situation where the left screams the O&G is getting all these subsidies, when there are none, and Biden responds, "we are going to rip all those O&G subsidies away", and the clapping seals on the left roar with approval.
Meanwhile there were no subsidies to begin with. But the left feels emotionally satisfied.
exactly my thoughts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:16 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Curious as that one "subsidy" the oil companies get is the strategic oil reserves. Is this affecting it?
Little article on oil subsidies from Forbes.
oil subsidies
Like this little gem
So none for low income then?
Little article on oil subsidies from Forbes.
oil subsidies
Like this little gem
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Should we fund programs like the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (HEAP) that help low-income families with their heating bills?” The irony in this question is that some of the people who are the most vehemently opposed to fossil fuel subsidies will argue that this is an important program that helps keep poor people from freezing to death in winter, and thus it would be inhumane to eliminate it.
So none for low income then?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:19 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
OMB
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:40 am to dstone12
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dstone12
Nice Ed K drop.
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