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re: Christians and Christmas

Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60202 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Was born in a Sukkoth during the Feast of Tabernacles, not December.


Yea I know. Not my point. Did God not make Dec 25th?

Why not celebrate both dates?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53646 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

If Jehovah Witnesses are in a cult then Catholics are as well. Catholicism has weird as shite traditions that have nothing to do with the Bible.


There's nothing "weird" about Catholicism at all. It only seems "weird" to those who don't have access to the proper information.

If you'd like to learn ANYTHING about the theology and practices of the Roman Catholic religion, all of your questions can be answered at this website.

LINK

MERRY CHRISTMAS !
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23055 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

He was born
He was crucified
He died for our sins

That's all that matters. Not the time of year we celebrate His love for us.




None of the above matters without The Resurrection.

Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20824 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

If the unintended consequence of celebrating the birth of Christ on an arbitrary date is that lost people continue to be lost without regard for Christ, I'm ok with that


My Christian brother we are splitting hairs some but yes you will always have lost folks but why set some of them up to be deceived when they don’t have to be and perpetuated in their state of being lost when they could be “saved”?

December 25th was not an arbitrary date either. It was picked in concert with the pagan winter solstice celebrations to make converting the pagans easier when the “church” and state were brought together in Rome under Constantine.These things I am laying out doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to detect…and these facts can be used effectively by cults to poke holes in doctrines of Christian Churches enough to allow doubt to creep in and set a bad stage for these cults to exploit a small set of truths then drive way off the rails with the rest of their flawed doctrines.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6341 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:43 am to
quote:

Charlie Brown said so in the 70s and it's infinitely worse today.

And the cartoon took some heat for those reasons. The contrast of the gross commercialization of Christmas and Linus’s simple recitation of Jesus’s birth from Luke’s gospel was stunning and made some commercial heads spin.
quote:

I guess you were right, Linus. I shouldn't have picked this little tree," said Charlie Brown. "Everything I do turns into a disaster. I guess I don't really know what Christmas is all about. Isn't there anyone who knows what Christmas is all about?"

"Sure, Charlie Brown, I can tell you what Christmas is all about," said Linus. [Linus walks to center stage.] "Lights, please."

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:59 am to
quote:

Please elaborate

Apparently you should have kept the receipt according to these weirdos. If you want to buy a gift for an adult do it. I won't judge you
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62775 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:18 am to
quote:

I've noticed a definite uptick in online videos and Christians organizations and people who are campaigning against Christmas


Where do y'all find these people? I never see this.

I see Christians who campaign against Halloween, and I understand where they're coming fr even if I totally disagree, but I never see this with Christmas.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
2163 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:16 am to
Our culture celebrates Santa Claus 10x more than Jesus on Christmas. That definitely includes many Christians. It's wrong, and it warps kids minds about what is and isnt important. That doesnt make me anti Christmas.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:55 am to
quote:

My Christian brother we are splitting hairs some but yes you will always have lost folks but why set some of them up to be deceived

We're not splitting hairs. You're talking goofiness. The grace of God hath appeared to all men. Now God calls on men everywhere to repent. Men hated the light because their deeds were evil.

My job is to tell people the truth. Their rejection of the truth is on them and a result of their lack of faith in God. My celebration of God on Christmas is unto the Lord. Let your lack of celebration also be unto the Lord and we both remain faithful and obedient.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 7:56 am
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6453 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Its giving gifts to adults that needs to stop.


Friendsgiving and Friendsmas needs to be banished into the depths of the further.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Friendsgiving and Friendsmas needs to be banished into the depths of the further.

Ya'll are a bunch of weirdos.

Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71351 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 8:01 am to
I am celebrating Christmas as the birth of our Lord and Savior. You do you.

Not directed at you Squid man.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 8:03 am
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 8:03 am to
quote:

I am celebrating Christmas as the birth of our Lord and Savior. You do you.

Yeah, me, too. And that will include giving family gifts to commemorate the gift of my Lord to all men.
Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
71351 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 8:04 am to


Appy Olidays to you.
This post was edited on 11/29/22 at 8:05 am
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20824 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

My Christian brother we are splitting hairs some but yes you will always have lost folks but why set some of them up to be deceived


quote:

We're not splitting hairs. You're talking goofiness.


Goofiness? Pray tell what is goofy about anything I said? Why put lipstick on a pig and try to pass it off as something it isn't when it can easily be shown to be what it is and can wreck your credibility. That's not being goofy, that's calling it out so that we are mindful of the situation.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62775 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Our culture celebrates Santa Claus 10x more than Jesus on Christmas. That definitely includes many Christians. It's wrong, and it warps kids minds about what is and isnt important. That doesnt make me anti Christmas.


I definitely agree with this, but that also doesn't mean I don't do the Santa thing with my kids.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
2163 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

I definitely agree with this, but that also doesn't mean I don't do the Santa thing with my kids.


Oh same. But my kids will be learning the truth earlier than I did. I will just tell them they will receive the same amount of presents because through Christ's blessings, I love them, and thats the reason they got them in the first place. I think they will be ok. I just cant decide how early I should go.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Why put lipstick on a pig and try to pass it off as something it isn't when it can easily be shown to be what it is and can wreck your credibility.

My celebrating Christmas doesn't make people into Jehovahs Witnesses. Rejecting the truth does. That's goofiness.
Posted by CrimsonJazz
Member since Dec 2014
1052 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 1:52 pm to
The Myth of the Pagan Origins of Christmas

quote:

It’s generally accepted that early Christians adopted December 25th as the day of Christ’s birth to co-opt the pagan celebration of the winter solstice. Some believe this fact undermines Christianity. But according to Professor William Tighe, this “fact” may actually be a myth.


Interesting reading here. Not taking one side or the other, but food for thought.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20824 posts
Posted on 11/29/22 at 4:46 pm to
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My celebrating Christmas doesn't make people into Jehovahs Witnesses


Really? So you're saying that if someone who is not terribly versed in the Bible and knows from your and other Christians' celebrating Christmas that it's a thing with the "church", then is approached by a cult that can use this to parlay a sense of having enlightenment that they actually don't have but can use this as a canard to deceive a potential "victim" that this is not problematic?

Just because YOU aren't a candidate to be deceived, it means we should not be mindful, as Christians, that others could be?
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