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Chris Christie is in 3rd Place in NH, doubling DeSantis
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:27 pm
Haley is in 2nd with 20%.
Vivick doesn't even register in Florida's latest poll at 0%, and has little or no support anywhere to speak of.
About 25-30% of the GOP is what I would refer to as the old or pre-Trump GOP. The party of wars and a shrinking middle class. The party of NAFTA and a fast food and high tech/ defense contractor economy ... with nothing in between.
They also don't really have an issue with the border crisis (not really), as they don't live near them and their true constituents
basically benefit from illegal immigration.
In between there is hard right conservatives like DeSantis & Cruz who sort of maneuver around ans parrot some populist platitudes while never crossing that line that would unlease the deep state on them.
Then you have Trump, who is basically a renegade with some populism tendencies ... and some big government tendencies
It's a total mess.
If Trump is allowed to run, you will probably see him try to bring the traditional wing back on board by picking Nikki as his VP. That positions her for 2028 and moves us right back to the party of the Bushes, Romney and McCain.
I will not vote for that ticket.
Vivick doesn't even register in Florida's latest poll at 0%, and has little or no support anywhere to speak of.
About 25-30% of the GOP is what I would refer to as the old or pre-Trump GOP. The party of wars and a shrinking middle class. The party of NAFTA and a fast food and high tech/ defense contractor economy ... with nothing in between.
They also don't really have an issue with the border crisis (not really), as they don't live near them and their true constituents
basically benefit from illegal immigration.
In between there is hard right conservatives like DeSantis & Cruz who sort of maneuver around ans parrot some populist platitudes while never crossing that line that would unlease the deep state on them.
Then you have Trump, who is basically a renegade with some populism tendencies ... and some big government tendencies
It's a total mess.
If Trump is allowed to run, you will probably see him try to bring the traditional wing back on board by picking Nikki as his VP. That positions her for 2028 and moves us right back to the party of the Bushes, Romney and McCain.
I will not vote for that ticket.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:28 pm to RiverCityTider
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doubling DeSantis
But enough about their weight, what do the polls say?
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:29 pm to RiverCityTider
He’s not going to pick Nikki and If you don’t vote then don’t complain afterwards.

Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:31 pm to RiverCityTider
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If Trump is allowed to run
This is all you need to know to be assured that he should get your vote.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:34 pm to PsychTiger
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But enough about their weight, what do the polls say?

Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:35 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
I want to vote for him if he brings in a MAGA staff.
I don't want a repeat of Trump being made a fool of by his own appointees.
I don't want a repeat of Trump being made a fool of by his own appointees.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:41 pm to PsychTiger
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But enough about their weight, what do the polls say?
He's crushing him.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:42 pm to RiverCityTider
quote:NH has probably the least-"Conservative" Republicans in the country. Certainly top five or so. It is no wonder that an actual conservative does not poll well there.
Chris Christie is in 3rd Place in NH, doubling DeSantis
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:43 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
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This is all you need to know to be assured that he should get your vote.
Or we could get really creative and look at how he performed in his first term.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:45 pm to Flats
I believe he performed quite admirably, but we each have our own personal opinions on the matter.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:45 pm to Antoninus
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actual conservative
Even for you, this must have been an incredibly difficult lie to type.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:45 pm to RiverCityTider
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Vivick doesn't even register in Florida's latest poll at 0%, and has little or no support anywhere to speak of.
not shocked by this at all
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:45 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
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This is all you need to know to be assured that he should get your vote.
You let liberals determine who you should vote for?
Makes sense.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:46 pm to Fun Bunch
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You let liberals determine who you should vote for?
Our enemies aren't liberals. They are statists. And yes, that's enough for me to know who they don't want in office.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:47 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
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Even for you, this must have been an incredibly difficult lie to type.
What is the lie?
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:47 pm to Fun Bunch
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What is the lie?
That Chris Christie is a conservative.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:48 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
He was referring to Desantis.
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:50 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
quote:Is it your position that EITHER Christie OR Haley is more "conservative" than DeSantis?quote:Even for you, this must have been an incredibly difficult lie to type
NH has probably the least-"Conservative" Republicans in the country. Certainly top five or so. It is not wonder that an actual conservative does not poll well there.
Trump is Trump, and this place loves the man, but I doubt that anyone even HERE contends that he is more "conservative" than DeSantis.
The point is that it is RIDICULOUS to use New Hampshire as any sort of Republican barometer.
This post was edited on 11/16/23 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:52 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
quote:JFCquote:That Chris Christie is a conservative.
What is the lie?
Posted on 11/16/23 at 2:52 pm to RiverCityTider
C'mon, it is New Hampshire 

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