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China buying Iranian oil as retaliation for trade deal failures--

Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:19 pm
The top secret "threat" that caused Bolton to send two carriers into the Persian Gulf may very well have been nothing more than a tightening of a blockade of Iranian ports to thwart China' purchases of oil.

Here is a report on the Chinese purchases. LINK

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China-Iran trade slowed dramatically after the reimposition of U.S. secondary sanctions in November, suggesting the Chinese government had chosen to subordinate its economic relations with Iran to the much more important issue of its ongoing trade negotiations with the United States. But these negotiations have since broken down. This week, President Trump announced plans to impose tariffs on a further $300 billion in Chinese imports in addition to punitive measures against Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei, which has been targeted in part for its alleged violations of Iran sanctions.

These announcements stoked anger in China, which has vowed to fight back. Last week, foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang told reporters that China “resolutely opposes” unilateral sanctions on Iran. But until now, there had been little evidence that the Chinese government was encouraging its companies to ignore or evade U.S. sanctions in the interest of maintaining trade with Iran. While Chinese multinationals will likely remain wary of trading with Iran due to the risks posed to their increasingly global businesses, China’s apparent decision to use state-enterprises to purchase at least some Iranian oil represents a direct and significant challenge to U.S. sanctions. Earlier this week, Trump trade advisor Peter Navarro singled out China’s sanctionable activities in Iran’s metals industry in a Financial Times op-ed. With this kind of messaging, the Trump administration has made it impossible for China to keep the trade war separate from its disagreements with the United States over Iran sanctions.


Now do you think Bolton is advocating war with Iran AND China???? Has he called Sheldon Adelson to see how to respond yet??

I want our troops out of the ME altogether to prevent such uncomfortable spots.

Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:21 pm to
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I B Freeman


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Posted by frankthetank
Member since Oct 2007
2306 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:24 pm to
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I want our troops out of the ME altogether to prevent such uncomfortable spots.


Well this is stupid. You obviously know nothing about our national intetests/defense. This area is key to any wide spread war.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:26 pm to
OK neocon.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:28 pm to
Jeez dude. Get Xi's unit out of your mouth.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:28 pm to
I am almost positive you have Aspergers Syndrome
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19061 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:29 pm to
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I want our troops out of the ME altogether to prevent such uncomfortable spots.



we can't up and leave the god damn Middle East and abandon our presence in the region, because as soon as you do, Russia and China will fill the vacuum in a fricking heart beat. Do you have any clue how much of the world's trade runs through that area? Every time I hear a fricking idiotic argument like yours, I feel compelled to remind you just what in the hell you are advocating for.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:30 pm to
Simply pointing out the events of the day.

Do you know what threat they will invent to justify the increased military presence in the Persian Gulf?
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 3:31 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118844 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:31 pm to
So is this China winning?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118844 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:32 pm to
IB doesn't realize that oil is fungible.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:32 pm to
Winning what???

What is a win for you? both countries hurt but one not as much as the other?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:44 pm to
I don’t think I have ever seen you make a positive thread in regards to Trump.

No real point to this post of mine. Just an observation.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:46 pm to
I just started a thread complimenting him on reversing his American punishing tariffs on Canadian steel.

Do you not count that since you are disappointed the tariffs are gone or something??
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:48 pm to
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I just started a thread complimenting him on reversing his American punishing tariffs on Canadian steel.
You mean the one where you posted this:
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Good news for Americans--the Trump punishment of Americans using Canadian steel is soon to end.

quote:

Do you not count that since you are disappointed the tariffs are gone or something??
Does it even apply?
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:49 pm to
Let me get this straight--if the US is not involved in the ME militarily oil from the ME will not come to market??? This is your position???

You understand we did not have troops on the ground there until GHWB? (Reagan had troops in Lebanon but that was a different issue.)

How did all that oil get to market without us then??? :rotflmao:
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:53 pm to
damn, what a misleading title you got there.

For Iran, China’s decision to continue to purchase at least some Iranian oil could prove a vital lifeline as it struggles to withstand the Trump administration’s “maximum pressure” sanctions campaign.

d9id you really think that someone wasn't going to read your link? Dumbass.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:54 pm to
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You mean the one where you posted this:
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Good news for Americans--the Trump punishment of Americans using Canadian steel is soon to end.




Yes that one.

Aren't you glad he reversed himself and no longer punishes Americans using Canadian steel???
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32801 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:54 pm to
I'm sure you're happy for both Iran and China.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:55 pm to
And no fricks were given..
They’re acting out, like the petulant children they are. The mighty Chinese bend the knee and crawl to the shithole country of Iran for help... lol
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 3:59 pm to
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Aren't you glad he reversed himself and no longer punishes Americans using Canadian steel???

I don’t care either way.

I have no issue with tariffs and it seems that Canada is a negligible producer of steel on the global market.
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