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re: China announces 34% retaliatory tariff on all US imports. Dow down 1000 on the news.

Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:37 am to
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
6104 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:37 am to
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Of course we're likely to never know, for sure. On the other hand, the "unspecified virus of unknown origin" solved 2 problems for the CCP:

1. Immediately took the Hong Kong protests off the front page. It also gave them cover to send everyone inside, by force.

2. Replaced Trump with Biden.

I'm not saying that anyone who benefits from anything like this, ever, also caused it, but that's the absolute first place one should always look.

BREXIT start date = January 31, 2020
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62587 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:37 am to
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2. Replaced Trump with Biden.



Unbelievable how the sheep don’t understand that this was the reason for the release of COVID

Democrats conspired with the Chinese to ensure Trump couldn’t win reelection

And then they still needed rigged voting machines to do it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467588 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:37 am to
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So you cant provide your own answer

I mean, why would I when one of the greatest economists in history has done the work?

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you needed chatgp

wut
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130504 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:37 am to
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You dumb fricks tried to put a drunk in the White House.

Yall sure love to keep believing this lie.
Posted by Huskertiger2
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2020
1603 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:38 am to
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Other than bourbon, what exactly does China import from the US?


They buy a ton of grain from us, especially soy beans
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85481 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:39 am to
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I don't think this is a historical argument of leftists, but whatever.



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but not economic justice
They just are looking for a better life.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467588 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:39 am to
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Democrats conspired with the Chinese to ensure Trump couldn’t win reelection

So China committed economic suicide so that Biden could win and not only maintain Trump's China tariffs, but increase them?

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The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May.

The tariff rate will go up to 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% on solar cells and to 25% on electrical vehicle batteries, critical minerals, steel, aluminum, face masks and ship-to-shore cranes beginning September 27, according to the US Trade Representative’s Office.

Tariff hikes on other products, including semiconductor chips, are set to take effect over the next two years.


Don't forget what Biden did with China and microprocessors, along with CHIPS, which has severely hurt China's ability to compete in tech
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175979 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:39 am to
Democrats care a lot about the stock market now. A few years ago they said it was only for rich people.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94121 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:40 am to
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Yall sure love to keep believing this lie.


She was just posting shitfaced about Wisconsin the other night
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10345 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:43 am to
This is the reason we have to do this. China has too much control because we sent all manufacturing to China.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63004 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:50 am to
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We could just as easily move all of our production to another country that isn't throwing massive tariffs on our imports, or better yet even bring it home.
We cannot "bring it home". Even if we fricked our economy and SOL to be at China's status to make it viable, we don't have the population.


It's weird that you actually quoted what I said, and then proceeded to only respond to a piece of it. The reality is that if we stopped all production in China today some production would come home and other production will go elsewhere. We would continue on with little to no effects long-term.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:51 am to
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Dow down 1000 on the news.


The market is not even open. You mean Dow futures.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467588 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:54 am to
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We would continue on with little to no effects long-term.

Not if we "being it home".

That would be quite bad for our economy and SOL

So the other option is to create another China, based on their lower economic status and cheaper labor.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86384 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:54 am to
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Yall sure love to keep believing this lie.



Joe Biden is the fittest he’s ever been.

I don’t take economic advice from complete morons like you c.



This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 7:56 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94121 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:54 am to
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Democrats care a lot about the stock market now. A few years ago they said it was only for rich people.


Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28037 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 7:57 am to
Does China really want to get in a pissing match with Trump ?

Half their GOP comes from Walmart, Amazon on and on.


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63004 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:15 am to
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Not if we "being it home".

That would be quite bad for our economy and SOL

So the other option is to create another China, based on their lower economic status and cheaper labor.


Yes, we all are aware of what you believe would happen. You are wrong, and when it is obvious you are wrong you will pretend you weren't.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18895 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:15 am to
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The tariff rate will go up to 100% on electric vehicles


Thats weak even by your standards. The tariffs were on vehicles FROM china, its why they were building, emphasis on WERE building the largest car factory in the world in Mexico.....until Trump slapped them down.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61403 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:16 am to
And if we didn’t depend upon China it would have no effect, and full circle back to the problem being addressed by the tariffs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467588 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:20 am to
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Yes, we all are aware of what you believe would happen.

Yes, I can do basic math.

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You are wrong,

Tell us how paying higher prices to redistribute wealth from productive people to artificially increase salaries of non-efficient jobs is going to be beneficial to our economy.
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