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Children of Military born overseas not considered to be American at birth
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:57 pm
USCIS Memo
Is this worded poorly or is it really disadvantaging active duty military assigned overseas?
quote:
Explains that USCIS no longer considers children of U.S. government employees and U.S. armed forces members residing outside the United States as “residing in the United States” for purposes of acquiring citizenship under INA 320.
Is this worded poorly or is it really disadvantaging active duty military assigned overseas?
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:00 pm to Redleg Guy
This is a terrible policy
Soldiers' kids no
Illegal aliens' kids si
Soldiers' kids no
Illegal aliens' kids si
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:00 pm to Redleg Guy
quote:
is it really disadvantaging active duty military assigned overseas?
meh...children born to a U.S. citizen is a U.S. citizen no matter where the child is born. So, this would only apply to employees / armed forces who are NOT currently U.S. citizens.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:02 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
So you don't think this was meant to posthumously revoke McCain's citizenship then? 
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:03 pm to Redleg Guy
My son was born on a military base overseas. If he isn't suddenly American than I will be pissed.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:04 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
So you don't think this was meant to posthumously revoke McCain's citizenship then?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:06 pm to Redleg Guy
it is poorly worded
it says “acquiring citizenship”
a biological child of a natural born US citizen soldier born on a base overseas is a natural born citizen.
however, a soldier who has a child that is NOT a natural born citizen cannot count time living on a base overseas towards the residency requirements to become a naturalized citizen.
it says “acquiring citizenship”
a biological child of a natural born US citizen soldier born on a base overseas is a natural born citizen.
however, a soldier who has a child that is NOT a natural born citizen cannot count time living on a base overseas towards the residency requirements to become a naturalized citizen.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:06 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
So you don't think this was meant to posthumously revoke McCain's citizenship then?
I retract my position
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:07 pm to cajunangelle
quote:
My son was born on a military base overseas.
"He has to go back" gif
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:09 pm to Kafka
quote:
This is a terrible policy
Soldiers' kids no
Illegal aliens' kids si
Setting up the argument against birthright citizenship.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:10 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
.children born to a U.S. citizen is a U.S. citizen no matter where the child is born
Tell this to all the people on this board who insist Valerie Jarret is Iranian.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:11 pm to Redleg Guy
Are they meaning that one parent is American? Because I can't believe this stands for both parents being American.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:12 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
So you don't think this was meant to posthumously revoke McCain's citizenship then?
McCain's parents were American Citizens. Therefore he was a Citizen, no matter the location of his birth.
The OP is referencing children of Non-Citizens whose parents work for the FedGov/DoD overseas.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:12 pm to cajunangelle
quote:
My son was born on a military base overseas. If he isn't suddenly American than I will be pissed.
Dad?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:13 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
meh...children born to a U.S. citizen is a U.S. citizen no matter where the child is born. So, this would only apply to employees / armed forces who are NOT currently U.S. citizens.
It would better if somehow they worded it like you did..
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:13 pm to Golfer
Quite right, quite right.
I was making an urngemanbad joke.
I was making an urngemanbad joke.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:13 pm to cajunangelle
quote:
My son was born on a military base overseas. If he isn't suddenly American than I will be pissed
I may be mistaken, but don't those bases have the same rules as embassies where they are considered American soil?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:18 pm to cajunangelle
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My son was born on a military base overseas. If he isn't suddenly American than I will be pissed.
I wouldn't worry; I'm sure he would be grandfathered in.
My son was born in Australia. We took him to the U.S. consulate in Sydney, showed them my Louisiana birth certificate, his mother's birth certificate (Australian and no pics of the wife), our marriage certificate (Louisiana), and my son's Australian birth certificate. He was given a "Birth of a United States Citizen Abroad" certificate and a U.S. passport. So he was a U.S. citizen at birth because I was a U.S. citizen. He actually has duel citizenship. I was not in the military and the wife (again, no pics) did not hold any kind of U.S. residency or citizenship at the time.
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:22 pm to Redleg Guy
quote:
Explains that USCIS no longer considers children of U.S. government employees and U.S. armed forces members residing outside the United States as “residing in the United States” for purposes of acquiring citizenship under INA 320.
I don't think this affects citizenship. It seems this is saying children who are born in a foreign country from military or DOD members would be considered citizens who are non residents. When born they would probably have to put down home of record as residence while living overseas as a family member. This just seems like they are omitting that.
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 3:34 pm to Redleg Guy
Ted Cruz bout to get deported.
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