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re: Chauvin Verdict reached...GUILTY - ALL COUNTS

Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4684 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:21 pm to
Pretty much the case and Maxine and the press doxxing made his appeal even better.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:21 pm to
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What felony are they saying was committed? Honest question.

Yeah, where is that charge?
Or is murder the felony in itself?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26369 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:21 pm to
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What felony are they saying was committed? Honest question.



3rd Degree Assault
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
15253 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:22 pm to
As a white male, I’d rather go into the frontlines in Iran/ME than be a cop.
Posted by RiseUpATL
Member since Sep 2018
2214 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:22 pm to
No. One man consumed an assload of drugs. The other didn’t intend to kill him.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:23 pm to
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3rd Degree Assault

So where is that charge? That seems to be the basis for the 2nd degree murder, or am I completely off base?
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:23 pm to
If I was a white LEO I would never stop, question, or arrest a black again.
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Euthanasia, USA
Member since Jan 2009
8400 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:23 pm to
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As a white male, I’d rather go into the frontlines in Iran/ME than be a cop.


100%
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26369 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:25 pm to
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So where is that charge? That seems to be the basis for the 2nd degree murder, or am I completely off base?



It's incorporated into the murder charge. So basically, the jury has to determine if he is guilty of the 3rd degree assault to be able to find him guilty of the murder charge.
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1041 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:25 pm to
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No, they found Chauvin guilty because all evidence proved beyond any reasonable doubt that his actions killed a man.


Nope.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37269 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:25 pm to
Someone was making it rain in GF square in Minneapolis .

Wasn’t expecting that .

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:27 pm to
Looking at it like that, I’m actually not surprised at the murder 2 conviction.

I think you actually have to convict on murder 2 if you convict manslaughter 2 in this case because of the nature of the offense.

The murder 3 I don’t understand.
Posted by ChuckO1975
Member since Feb 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:28 pm to
White men will not get justice in this country again. If you can't see the need for solidarity against this satanic empire by now, then nothing will convince you.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:29 pm to
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So basically, the jury has to determine if he is guilty of the 3rd degree assault to be able to find him guilty of the murder charge.


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Under Minnesota Statute § 609.223(1), a person commits third degree assault when they assault another person and inflict substantial bodily harm. ... The phrase substantial bodily harm is supposed to be a higher level than simple bodily harm but less than great bodily harm.

Unless I'm reading this wrong, it's in the middle of the "assault scale" and therefor, would not cause death.
You seem to know what you are talking about here and I'm honestly trying to understand the mental gymnastics that went into the verdict.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26563 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:29 pm to
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Easy out for the jury and this will be overturned on appeal


If you think that it was an easy out for the jury just wait to you see how easy an out it is for a very public appellate court judge to say “affirmed” and safely go back to their family. Judge isn’t overturning shite.
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13499 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:30 pm to
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Looking at it like that, I’m actually not surprised at the murder 2 conviction.

I think you actually have to convict on murder 2 if you convict manslaughter 2 in this case because of the nature of the offense.

The murder 3 I don’t understand.



Nah, man, he was negligent but not in the middle of a felonious act.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
4092 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:30 pm to
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Someone was making it rain in GF square in Minneapolis


It's COUNTERFEIT
Posted by tucoco
Las Vegas
Member since Mar 2021
7403 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:31 pm to
Poor dude will probably get life without parole, but now he will have to watch out for the brothers in the pen.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26369 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:33 pm to
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Unless I'm reading this wrong, it's in the middle of the "assault scale" and therefor, would not cause death.
You seem to know what you are talking about here and I'm honestly trying to understand the mental gymnastics that went into the verdict.


I'm not a criminal attorney, but I believe it's kind of all encompassing in a situation like this. Meaning, if you caused his death, then you obviously caused bodily harm in the process.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:33 pm to
It doesn’t mean the assault caused death in that explicit statute.

Basically, Chauvin had his knee on Floyd beyond what was deemed reasonable. Floyd was substantially injured, Assault 3, felony.

Floyd died during commission of a felony, but it wasn’t chauvins intent. Murder 2

Chauvin created an unsafe scenario through negligent behavior, intentionally, resulting in Floyd’s death. Death was accidental but behavior was intentional. Manslaughter 2.

The murder 3 I absolutely don’t understand because I don’t get the depraved mind component.
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