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CEOs of nearly 200 companies just said shareholder value no longer their main objective

Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:58 am
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:58 am
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Shareholder value is no longer the main focus of some of America’s top business leaders.

The Business Roundtable, a group of chief executive officers from major U.S. corporations, issued a statement Monday with a new definition of the “purpose of a corporation.”


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The re-imagined idea of a corporation drops the age-old notion that corporations function first and formest to serve their shareholders and maximize profits. Rather, investing in employees, delivering value to customers, dealing ethically with suppliers and supporting outside communities are now at the forefront of American business goals, according to the statement.


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This is why America is doomed to fail. We have 200 of the top companies saying they don’t care about retained earnings anymore we want to make sure we spread the wealth. Make sure our communities are “taken care of.” WOW
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 7:01 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112613 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:59 am to
This isn’t shocking at all

It’s why companies like Gillette and Dicks openly pissed on their customer base
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:00 am to
That's grounds for removal. The respective boards should act. And if they don't, the shareholders should reconsider the board slate.
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:01 am to
If there's a complete list, I'd like to see it so I can sell all of that stock.

When those idiots have no investment stake, I bet the tune changes.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 7:03 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:02 am to
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Make sure our communities are “taken care of.” WOW

i.e. band together to punish people who don't comply with us by denying basic modern services like banking and communications
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:02 am to
So this is one of the reasons why I recommended banning the use of stock as a form of compensation for employees and contractors of corporations.

As far as WHY boards don't act...

The Significance of Board Interlocks for Corporate Governance

"Boards of directors of large American corporations are marked by a surprising degree of overlap in their memberships. The median Fortune 500 firm interlocked (shared directors) with seven other large firms during the mid-1980s, although this prevalence dropped slightly by the mid-1990s. In contrast to Japan, interlocks among American firms are rarely linked to banking relationships or vertical (buyer-supplier) relationships; rather, they reflect the embeddedness of corporate governance in social structures (e.g., friendship or other ties). Recent empirical research has linked interlocks to almost every important aspect of corporate governance, from executive compensation to strategies for takeovers and defending against takeovers. These findings suggest that proposals for reforming boards of directors through changing incentive structures (e.g., paying directors in equity rather than cash) are likely to have little effect because they misconstrue the role of the board as a social institution."

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You need to understand that the political link between business and constitutional/christian patriots is breaking. The left has co-opted these institutions and prefers to push things in the direction of monopoly and oligopoly as a first step to moving to a Chinese-style state capitalism model.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 7:08 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:03 am to
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Rather, investing in employees, delivering value to customers,


This will only serve to maximize profits in the long run.

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dealing ethically with suppliers and supporting outside communities


If done intelligently and not in a virtue signaling way can lead to greater profitable opportunities.

But companies have totally screwed it up by preaching too/screeching at customers that they need to do better and that they need to change.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:04 am to
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The re-imagined idea of a corporation drops the age-old notion that corporations function first and formest to serve their shareholders and maximize profits. Rather, making sure that CEO's, COOs, CFOs, receive obscene salaries, bonuses, and stock options -- even if it means bankrupting the corporations -- is of utmost importance to all public corporations. F*ck the shareholders. F*ck the workers. Hell, F*ck the corporation itself. As long as the brass can retire on their 150 foot yachts is all that matters.



FIFThem!
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 7:58 am
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:04 am to
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If there's a complete list, I'd like to see it so I can sell all of that stock.



LINK
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19513 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:06 am to
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If there's a complete list, I'd like to see it so I can sell all of that stock.
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I don't believe all of that crowd put that statement out. For example, Jamie Dimon? No.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:06 am to
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This is why America is doomed to fail.


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“While each of our individual companies serves its own corporate purpose, we share a fundamental commitment to all of our stakeholders,” said the statement, which signed by 181 CEOs. “We commit to deliver value to all of them, for the future success of our companies, our communities and our country.”
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Generating long-term value for shareholders, who provide the capital that allows companies to invest, grow and innovate. We are committed to transparency and effective engagement with shareholders.
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Each of our stakeholders is essential. We commit to deliver value to all of them, for the future success of our companies, our communities and our country.
How in hell do you get from those statements to "This is why America is doomed to fail"???
Posted by TGFN57
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:11 am to
Rank dumbassery
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:13 am to
You didn't grasp the significance of the substitution of "stakeholder" for "shareholder" in that statement.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:15 am to
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investing in employees, delivering value to customers, dealing ethically with suppliers and supporting outside communities are now at the forefront of American business goals


All of the above will lead to

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corporations function first and formest to serve their shareholders and maximize profits.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:19 am to
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That's grounds for removal.
Except for one small detail . . . that really is not what was said. What was said was a deliberate shot across the bow of activist investors or the Martin Shkreli's out there who prioritize short-term stock run-up over long-term corporate health. Long term corporate health is in no way oppositional to shareholder value. Short-term stock manipulation often is.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:20 am to
As long as they are paying lip service to maximize shareholder wealth that is ok.

Only reason a Corp exists
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32535 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:21 am to
Everyone of them is lying to sound PC. They are very much still only worried about their shareholders. They are just doing well enough to act like all of that other BS is important.
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
2613 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:23 am to
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While each of our individual companies serves its own corporate purpose, we share a fundamental commitment to all of our stakeholders,” said the statement, which signed by 181 CEOs. “We commit to deliver value to all of them, for the future success of our companies, our communities and our country.”


I will believe this when big food starts pulling overly processed foods, added sugars, and HFCS off the shelves. If they want to serve the shareholders, community and country, getting people off of added sugars would go a long way to reduce the diabetic and obesity epidemic in our country and the rest of the world.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 7:24 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:28 am to
Corporatism is failing. What you’re seeing is the looming threat of Socialism, as a way to address the failures of corporatism, starting to get very very real. AOC plus 3 might be useful after all.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:28 am to
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You didn't grasp the significance of the substitution of "stakeholder" for "shareholder"
Did you read the quotes?
Did you read the conference statement. I guess not.
The term shareholder was used, identically.

Though "stakeholder" could be stretched more broadly, it generally refers to all investors .... stocks, bonds, etc.
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