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re: CDC Quietly Changes It’s Official Definition of “Vaccine” and “Vaccination.”
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:45 am to Korkstand
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:45 am to Korkstand
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And you should note that an efficacy study determines relative rather than absolute risk reduction.
Jesus Christ. Stop while you’re still in the starting blocks.
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Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:45 am to jimmy the leg
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Those are not driven by public heath aspects imho.
That's why us pesky ole hillbillies who were blessed with common-sense instead of Doctorates are seen as the enemy.
NONE of this zhit passes the smell test.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:47 am to jimmy the leg
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Those are not driven by public heath aspects imho.
Everyone in public health is a socialist. Change my mind.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:51 am to Korkstand
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you think the new phrasing changes what qualifies as a vaccine, then you never knew what a vaccine was. Blame your parents, your teachers, the education system, and your own lack of curiosity and understanding, not the CDC.
What’s your definition of a vaccine?
I’m going with Biden’s, that you are 100% immune to getting a virus once vaccinated.
I went through the first 4 pages of you calling people dumb and never giving the definition of a vaccine you learned in elementary school.
Teach us smart one.
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 9:57 am
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:56 am to Toomer Deplorable
quietly?!?
how did your source find out?
you right wing source got it.
look back at the reactionary posts.
all whine it's secret. quiet.
how did you know?
how did your source find out?
you right wing source got it.
look back at the reactionary posts.
all whine it's secret. quiet.
how did you know?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:57 am to the808bass
quote:That was enough for statistical significance. Can you show your own work to determine significance?
That’s not the biggest reason for a longer study. The biggest is to get to an infection rate in the control arm that allows you to actually compare what the vaccine’s efficacy is versus the real world rate of infection. When only 0.7% of the group that didn’t get the vaccine is infected, it doesn’t tell you much.
quote:It's also not accurate. That was after only a month, correct? The period of time matters, a lot. Commonly ignored around here, though.
“If you take the vaccine, your risk of infection is reduced by 0.6x%!!!” isn’t a great marketing tag line, though.
quote:Maybe soon I'll get to enjoy you learning something.
I’m enjoying you learning about Pharma studies as you simultaneously pontificate. It’s quite the production.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:57 am to Korkstand
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If you think the new phrasing changes what qualifies as a vaccine
You stupid, ignorant F*CK.
They changed the definition for ONE REASON and ONE REASON ONLY -- so that these drug manufacturers can get complete f*cking legal immunity from the experimental poisons that they now want to mandate EVERYONE take.
THAT'S IT.
They all know that if these poisons do not have complete f*cking legal immunity, they will be pulled from the shelves IMMEDIATELY.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:58 am to the808bass
quote:We can't stop now. I need to know whether you understand the difference.quote:Jesus Christ. Stop while you’re still in the starting blocks.
And you should note that an efficacy study determines relative rather than absolute risk reduction.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 9:59 am to Korkstand
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. I need to know whether you understand the difference
You need to understand it as well
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:00 am to mouton
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Did they define the flu vaccine as a vaccine? Yes or no?
Incredible how you find nothing wrong with this.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:02 am to the808bass
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It’s fun watching people flock to defend positions they didn’t care about yesterday.
“Yesterday I couldn’t spell expurt. Now I are one.”
The lack of self awareness of the politics board will always amuse me.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:08 am to dgnx6
quote:The defining characteristic of a vaccine is that it stimulates ("trains") your own immune system to respond to a specific germ.
What’s your definition of a vaccine?
quote:
I’m going with Biden’s, that you are 100% immune to getting a virus once vaccinated.
quote:Apologies, I gave my definition in one of the other threads last night about this same exact topic. Apparently there are a LOT of people who never learned this. A shame, truly.
I went through the first 4 pages of you calling people dumb and never giving the definition of a vaccine you learned in elementary school.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:10 am to MMauler
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You stupid, ignorant F*CK.
quote:I assure you that a page titled "Immunization: The Basics" has no impact on the legal system.
They changed the definition for ONE REASON and ONE REASON ONLY -- so that these drug manufacturers can get complete f*cking legal immunity from the experimental poisons that they now want to mandate EVERYONE take.
THAT'S IT.
They all know that if these poisons do not have complete f*cking legal immunity, they will be pulled from the shelves IMMEDIATELY.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:10 am to Korkstand
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We can't stop now. I need to know whether you understand the difference.
Why don’t you explain to me how you calculate relative risk reduction without an absolute risk reduction data point.
It’s been a while since I saw someone flailing this desperately without a bit of comprehension what they’re lecturing.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:10 am to jimmy the leg
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I am aware.
We just have different views on the justifications for said mandates. You seem to view them as public health driven. I view that as a means to subjugate, isolate, manipulate, marginalize, and ultimately...dehumanize.
Those are not driven by public heath aspects imho.
Generally speaking, I try not to attribute malice to situations where gross incompetence will suffice as an explanation.
Obviously there are some individuals who like attention/power, but on a societal level I think its largely just driven by mass hysteria and illogical, largely emotional reflex.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:11 am to Korkstand
And obviously I was just joking about what Biden said. I would never listen to a man that pushed segregation.
But the majority of vaccines we have, pretty much all of the non mRNA ones, are an isolated or weakened version of the virus to trigger an immune response in your cells.
But the majority of vaccines we have, pretty much all of the non mRNA ones, are an isolated or weakened version of the virus to trigger an immune response in your cells.
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:12 am to mouton
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Did they define the flu vaccine as a vaccine? Yes or no?
Well technically the flu vaccine is a vaccine and does provide immunity against a specific strain if influenza.
The covid vaccine provides 0 immunity against any strain from day 1 of trials.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:12 am to Roger Klarvin
roger sane.
leg paranoid
leg paranoid
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:14 am to Roger Klarvin
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Obviously there are some individuals who like attention/power, but on a societal level I think its largely just driven by mass hysteria and illogical, largely emotional reflex.
I agree with this.
Combined with the Gell Mann Amnesia effect.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:20 am to the808bass
quote:This request suggests that you are conflating the control group infection risk during the study period with absolute risk for purposes of NNV. Can you confirm so that I know how to respond?
Why don’t you explain to me how you calculate relative risk reduction without an absolute risk reduction data point.
quote:You're telling me.
It’s been a while since I saw someone flailing this desperately without a bit of comprehension what they’re lecturing.
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