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re: CDC Quietly Changes It’s Official Definition of “Vaccine” and “Vaccination.”
Posted on 9/9/21 at 6:51 am to the808bass
Posted on 9/9/21 at 6:51 am to the808bass
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Lol. “I shouldn’t have phrased it in a way that made me look stupid and now I have to copy paste from Wikipedia and pretend I was dumbing it down.” Retard.
The dude just put his dick in the guillotine on his own!
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Posted on 9/9/21 at 6:53 am to ShortyRob
And then said this:
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Then you do not understand vaccine effectiveness, probability
Posted on 9/9/21 at 6:53 am to dafif
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Question, how do we actually know this?
Well, we don't.
From the beginning, we've seen the people in charge of the numbers LIE AND CENSOR DATA that doesn't fit the narrative.
You can't have "facts" when your variables are manipulated garbage and we KNOW that the variables are flat out corrupted.
Hence, any "expert" opinion SHOULD come with a disclaimer.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:05 am to Korkstand
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A bunch of dumbasses creating a stink about the old phrasing, trying to claim the mrna vaccines aren't really vaccines.
They’re not. It’s spreading through the “vaccinated covid shot takers” like wildfire.
And never before in human history has there been a collective push by government, media, big business to get a shot. A government agency is now an English major changing meanings of words.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:13 am to Roger Klarvin
Simplest of questions, yes or no:
Do you think that there was absolutely no nefarious intent with the changing of the definition?
Do you find the TIMING of the change to be the least bit suspect given the Politicization of this Virus?
Do you think that there was absolutely no nefarious intent with the changing of the definition?
Do you find the TIMING of the change to be the least bit suspect given the Politicization of this Virus?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:19 am to Korkstand
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If you think the new phrasing changes what qualifies as a vaccine, then you never knew what a vaccine was. Blame your parents, your teachers, the education system, and your own lack of curiosity and understanding, not the CDC.
You're a fricking idiot.
The flu shot is not a vaccine. The covid shot was never a vaccine. The polio shot was a vaccine.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:20 am to Roger Klarvin
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The thread in question was claiming the virus was engineered from scratch in a lab. Genetic tracing renders that an impossibility, it did then and it still does now. Does that leave open the possibility that a natural virus was given novel traits through gain of function research and this virus got out? Yes. That being said, when you get past the coy claims which ultimately amount to entirely circumstantial evidence, it's actually still very difficult the explain how the virus would look as it did in its wild type form if it were the product of gain of function research. It lacks classic markers that are generally uniformly found i viruses that have undergone such research. Again, is it possible the lab was using novel approaches/mechanisms to do this? Yes, but even most within this field who have nothing to lose if this were true are having a tough time explaining it on the genetic level.
LMAO.
There’s never been a virus that treats everyone so random.
Stomach bug: shitting/throwing up
Head cold: snot
Flu: down and out
COVID-19: one person is asymptomatic, another is on a ventilator.
This virus didn’t come from a wet market, it was genetically engineered and leaked out on purpose or on accident by the dumb Chinese.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:49 am to Toomer Deplorable
Pretty obvious they changed the definition to guard against potential litigation that cites said definition as evidence that the Covid-19 vaccines do not produce immunity against the virus and it's various strains.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:50 am to Robin Masters
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you still haven’t figured out that this thread isn’t related to “the scientific world”?
But the definition is the same for the layperson and in the scientific world. Even under the older definitions, the mRNA vaccines would count as vaccines, especially since no one seemed to object to both flu vaccines and unconjugated polysaccharide vaccines being called 'vaccines.'
Posted on 9/9/21 at 7:54 am to Robin Masters
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You parents gave you polio, smallpox and measles vaccines so you wouldn’t get those diseases NOT so you would have slightly less horrific symptoms.
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Most childhood vaccines are 90% to 99% effective in preventing disease. And if a vaccinated child does get the disease, the symptoms are usually less serious than in a child who hasn't been vaccinated.
childhood vaccine efficacy
Well gee.
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Vaccines provide immunity. Covid provides protection of varying degree. They are not the same.
Vaccines provide protection Agassiz getting it and if you get it, you tend to get a less severe infection because your body had a head start.
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Your argument about “absolutes” is nihilist and capricious as it would basically render any definition meaningless. There are always outliers. And the whole frigging point is to fold new meaning into what is already commonly accepted.
No.
Just BTW, did you actually believe that vaccines give you 100 percent immunity?
I mean wow.
You know every vaccine has an efficacy correct?
You know what that efficacy is?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:40 am to RobbBobb
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They specifically tell you that you aren't being vaccinated against ALL FORMS of influenza. So its not a "flu vaccine", its a therapeutic designed toward guesswork, People still die from the flu, despite having the flu shot
People still get sick and die of all diseases we vaccinate against despite being vaccinated, or did at one time when disease prevalence was still high enough to allow for it.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:41 am to YouAre8Up
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You're a fricking idiot.
The flu shot is not a vaccine. The covid shot was never a vaccine. The polio shot was a vaccine.
They're all vaccines. What do you think the difference is? What defines a vaccine to you?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:42 am to oogabooga68
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Do you think that there was absolutely no nefarious intent with the changing of the definition?
Not nefarious, no
And again the definition in question is correct
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:44 am to YouAre8Up
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The flu shot is not a vaccine. The covid shot was never a vaccine. The polio shot was a vaccine.
They are all vaccines, and the polio vaccines we initially used were far more “dangerous” than flu or covid vaccines are.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:45 am to Korkstand
What’s up Korky. Haven’t seen you in a while.
Too busy applauding dementia Joe’s work to come visit with us?
Stay a while. I’ll make lemonade.
Too busy applauding dementia Joe’s work to come visit with us?
Stay a while. I’ll make lemonade.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:45 am to the808bass
quote:You still haven't explained how you arrived at your NNV numbers. Seems like you have used the risk reduction for only the duration of the studies. Is that correct?
the808bass
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:46 am to Rhino5
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There’s never been a virus that treats everyone so random.
Stomach bug: shitting/throwing up
Head cold: snot
Flu: down and out
COVID-19: one person is asymptomatic, another is on a ventilator.
This is complete nonsense. Flu severity ranges dramatically from asymptomatic carriers to death. Millions of people globally die of “stomach bugs” every year. One of those “stomach bugs” was one of the leading causes of death in children for all of human history.
And even if it were true, it would have absolutely nothing to do with the topic in question:
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:50 am to dafif
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:53 am to the808bass
quote:Exactly. The problem with your argument is that your NNV calculation appears to use an incidence rate of around 1%.
If we were experiencing a current worldwide outbreak of polio, the NNV would be much more important than it is now.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 8:53 am to thetempleowl
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Just BTW, did you actually believe that vaccines give you 100 percent immunity?
I’m quickly finding out that A LOT of people apparently believe this
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