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re: CDC Held a Secret Meeting after a Study showed the Hepatitis B Vaccine was Causing Autism
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:24 pm to Jake88
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:24 pm to Jake88
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I dont believe that tweet is being honest. The complaint is that doctors feel they will now need to explain how, in their opinion the new COVID vax schedule and effectiveness differs from that of HHS, not that they dont want to discuss risk vs benefit. From the lawsuit...
You don’t say?!?
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I hope the suit goes nowhere but people on X sensationalize too much for clicks.
This is obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense/intelligence.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:33 pm to Ailsa
Jesus Christ. This has been debunked time and time and time and time again. Vaccines, even those with thermisol are not associated with autism and definitely don’t cause it.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:33 pm to SallysHuman
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is it beyond the realm of possibility that 1mcg will be seen the same in the future?
Do we absolutely have it right now?
Possibly not..... Being "absolutely right "isnt really a concept in science. Science deals in approximate, provisional truths that are the best current explanations, constantly refined by new evidence, never claiming finality or absolute certainty.........but I would not base my decision on getting the DTaP for my child based on that possibility given that even the higher thimerosal dose pre 2001 version has never been found conclusively to cause nuero logical disorders.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:33 pm to ThuperThumpin
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I did not say "that nothing contained thimerosal after 2001" I said "All childhood vaccines in the United States have been thimerosal-free or contained only trace amounts since 2001." I'm not moving goalposts. You just mis read my statement. Some went entirely thiomersal free and others went to only having trace amounts. And I provided the differences in amounts from prior to and after 2001. As far as much...you are just arguing to argue if you dont understand the difference b/t 25 micrograms and 1 microgram
You are changing it to remove the "thimerosol free" portion of your claim.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:36 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Possibly not..... Being "absolutely right "isnt really a concept in science. Science deals in approximate, provisional truths that are the best current explanations, constantly refined by new evidence, never claiming finality or absolute certainty......
Fair enough, I agree with this.
Where things go sideways is the "The Science Is Settled" crew that does, in fact, "claim finality or absolute certainty..."
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:39 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Vaccines, even those with thermisol are not associated with autism and definitely don’t cause it.
You can't claim definitively what doesn’t cause or contribute to something unless you can prove what does.
Whether it's autism, ADHD, SIDS, allergies...
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:39 pm to notsince98
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ou are changing it to remove the "thimerosol free" portion of your claim.
Read my unedited original post again. All childhood vaccines in the United States have been thimerosal-free or contained only trace amounts since 2001.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:44 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:A modicum is a high bar around here at times.
This is obvious to anyone with a modicum of common sense/intelligence.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:49 pm to SallysHuman
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You can't claim definitively what doesn’t cause or contribute to something unless you can prove what does.
This is epistemological drivel at its finest
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:50 pm to CDawson
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Who is going to jail?
Jail? For what? Where did you get this crazy notion that it is illegal for them to poison kids? If you think that is illegal you need to learn a little bit more about how this shite works.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:50 pm to Jake88
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A modicum is a high bar around here at times.
Yeah man, I don’t know what happened to this place…..
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:57 pm to ThuperThumpin
Well that study is, as I'm sure you know, disputed. A quick google search reveals that
And before you get yourself riled up, I'm not necessarily questioning the science. I'm questioning the motivations behind the multi-billion dollar bureaucracy that funds the science.
quote:For those at home keeping score, the CDC relies on 6 specific studies to refute the findings of the above. so I'll ask again.... If there was enough of a risk to remove Thimerosal in 2001, and no subsequent research could conclusively rule it out as a potential cause for autism, why did the medical establishment destroy anyone who talked openly about autism/vaccine links. Because they absolutely did.
There are over 165 studies that have focused on Thimerosal, an organic-mercury (Hg) based compound, used as a preservative in many childhood vaccines, and found it to be harmful. Of these, 16 were conducted to specifically examine the effects of Thimerosal on human infants or children with reported outcomes of death; acrodynia; poisoning; allergic reaction; malformations; auto-immune reaction; Well’s syndrome; developmental delay; and neurodevelopmental disorders, including tics, speech delay, language delay, attention deficit disorder, and autism (16 studies).
And before you get yourself riled up, I'm not necessarily questioning the science. I'm questioning the motivations behind the multi-billion dollar bureaucracy that funds the science.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:57 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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This is epistemological drivel at its finest
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:00 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:That queue thread.
Yeah man, I don’t know what happened to this place…..
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:04 pm to SallysHuman
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Cumulative effects of all sources of "trace" amounts should be considered. It seems near every product introduced to infants have trace amounts that considered separately are supposedly "okay", but I rarely see anything considering them all together or guidance on the cumulative intake.
Because the human body can deal with these trace amounts pretty easily. Yes, even infants. Are you going to be up in arms about literally every other trace element which humans themselves both need but are also toxic, such as in selenium?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:04 pm to Ailsa
Almost certainly fake and stupid. You people believe anything.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:06 pm to crazy4lsu
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Because the human body can deal with these trace amounts pretty easily.
How long did it take to figure out xrays and lead exposure?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:07 pm to SallysHuman
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You can't claim definitively what doesn’t cause or contribute to something unless you can prove what does.
What? That is such a nonsensical catch-all that allows for opponents to operate in unlimited bad-faith. I can see why you would propose it, but it is not the way things work.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:09 pm to crazy4lsu
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What? That is such a nonsensical catch-all that allows for opponents to operate in unlimited bad-faith.
So... the causes or contributors to SIDS, autism, ADHD, allergies, etc... are a mystery, but we can confidently state that cumulative doses of adjuvants and contaminants in a whole array of products intended for infants ABSOLUTELY has nothing to do with chronic conditions?
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