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re: CDC covered up study showing 1135% increase in autism with Hep B vaccine…

Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:22 am to
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:22 am to
People shouldn't restrict themselves only to natural things. Plenty of natural things are harmful (including infectious diseases themselves) and many synthetic things are healthy.
Posted by Padme
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:23 am to
Why anyone would jeopardize a newborns health over something a bureaucrat recommends is retarded. And the doctors are a big part of the bureaucracy.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:23 am to
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The biggest driver of the “rise” in autism is how the diagnosis itself has changed over time. 

So why is it that people my age never knew one person with autism in their entire childhood. It didn't exist when I was a child. Neither did childhood obesity and diabetes. Something is definitely wrong here folks. I agree with RFK that we must look into this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:24 am to
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Why did you stop thinking?

What a strange response to me showcasing your projected ignorance and using "thinking" to craft an easy opportunity for you to change that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
463919 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:25 am to
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Is any of this naturally occurring in a one month old?"

HepB is a bad hill to die on, then, because infection is possible within 1 month and no, it doesn't require sexual contact for infection.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:26 am to
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So why is it that people my age never knew one person with autism in their entire childhood.

Because what "autism" was defined as back then was much more narrow.

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It didn't exist when I was a child.

It did. You didn't have any weird kids in your class? No kids who were bullied? No geeks/nerds?

Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:27 am to
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Why anyone would jeopardize a newborns health over something a bureaucrat recommends is retarded. And the doctors are a big part of the bureaucracy.


Why anyone would jeopardize their child's health over some blog posts with bad information is beyond me too...
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1418 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:29 am to
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It's almost as if you're seeking out things to confirm your preconceived worldview crafted by charlatans

It much more like I've found out how pharmaceutical corporations "donate" large amounts of money to medical schools, give medical professionals bonuses based on business volume... AND... spent sooo much money advertising that they now influence most media.
Think about this with just a healthy amount of skepticism, something doesn't quite smell right...
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37644 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:29 am to
No link to such study. Wait! It’s because they “covered it up”.
The abstract was not a scientific study. A scientific study later followed, and showed no association between vaccines and autism.

There are many ignorant people that don’t understand the reason for the increase in the diagnosis of ASD. They continue to blame vaccines in the low IQ’s lap it up.

This is where RFK‘s outrageous and debunked claim began.
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Point 1: This claim is not supported by actual research In scientific research, abstracts like this one are often a first look at data, designed to point towards future work. They are not peer-reviewed and usually provide very limited detail. In this case, we learn almost nothing about where the data is from, how they measured autism diagnosis rates, how they measured vaccination rates, or differences across different groups.

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The way science works is that after an abstract, authors will move on to produce a paper in which they usually provide more details, do more careful analysis, and often add more data. The abstract is a first step of the research process. These researchers did that. In 2003, they published a more complete paper in the journal Pediatrics, which showed no link between autism and thimerosal exposure. Review data based on multiple papers shows a similar result.

TLDR- no link between vaccines and ASD. Again!

EDT: I now see that SFP posted the same
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 10:37 am
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5012 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:30 am to
If, after living through the covid debacle of 2020, a person still takes the governments word on anything health related, there’s no saving that person. They’re a lost cause. That person is a freaking sheep for life.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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463919 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:31 am to
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If, after living through the covid debacle of 2020, a person still takes the governments word on anything health related, there’s no saving that person. They’re a lost cause. That person is a freaking sheep for life.

So you're attacking the abstract in OP, right, and its claims showing the increase in autism?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37644 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:32 am to
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Whew... just a 768% increase. It's good to know.. years AFTER we trusted the medical authorities that our children only had a seven fold increase risk of autism.

Nope. That was debunked as well.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:32 am to
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after living through the covid debacle of 2020, a person still takes the governments word on anything health related, there’s no saving that person. They’re a lost cause. That person is a freaking sheep for life.


Who are you gonna believe then when the doctors say to get vaccinated but the government says vaccines cause autism?
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9187 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:33 am to
It’s almost as if the womb-to-tomb board posters are having conniptions that people are backing away from constant government regulations. So they need to defend it.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:33 am to
The CDC and Big Pharma should, ideally, keep each other in check.

Instead, it seems the checks just go one way.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11381 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:33 am to
No one’s saying pharma is a saint. They aren't. Of course they spend money on ads and lobbying, just like oil companies, banks, and Big Tech do. But it’s a leap from “corporations push their interests” to “vaccines don’t work” or “doctors are bought off.” If every pediatrician were chasing bonuses, you’d expect wildly different advice from one clinic to the next. Instead, you see remarkable consistency worldwide, across rich and poor countries alike. That’s because the evidence on vaccines is strong enough to hold up no matter who’s footing the bill.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:34 am to
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It's almost as if you're seeking out things to confirm your preconceived worldview crafted by charlatans

It much more like I've found out how pharmaceutical corporations "donate" large amounts of money to medical schools, give medical professionals bonuses based on business volume... AND... spent sooo much money advertising that they now influence most media.
Think about this with just a healthy amount of skepticism, something doesn't quite smell right...


So in all the research you do and studies you've performed what did you find? Was the skepticism justified on vaccines or not? Can you link your work? Would also like to understand your credentials for this investigation. How long have you been a doctor? Studied medicine? Etc.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 10:36 am
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9187 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:35 am to
Yeah we’re lucky the world survived this long without the hep-b vaccine for newborns, you know, children’s health and all.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:37 am to
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almost as if the womb-to-tomb board posters are having conniptions that people are backing away from constant government regulations. So they need to defend it.


What does this thread have to do with government regulations ?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67186 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 10:37 am to
As soon as I saw 1135% increase I knew this was another bullshite X post.

There is an insane movement by radicals who want to undo decades of
scientific advances in disease prevention. Sadly, it’s become political.
Anti-establishment MAGA zealots versus anything that’s gone before…
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