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re: Catholics in America have fallen
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:04 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:04 pm to Freauxzen
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But everyone who is confirmed is struggling with sin. Period.
As long as they are preaching that the homosexuals should strive to be celibate, I don't have an issue with it. It only becomes a problem for me when the Church normalizes homosexual acts.
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:06 pm to Ricardo
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As long as they are preaching that the homosexuals should strive to be celibate, I don't have an issue with it.
100%
They have a cross to bear. Even Catholic couples are called to be celibate if they aren't open to life.
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It only becomes a problem for me when the Church normalizes homosexual acts.
Yep I agree something needs to be done about the liberal dioceses, in Germany and in the United States.
Although I think all of Germany is lost from a Christian perspective.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:18 pm to SallysHuman
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Repent means to turn from.
You can't be repentant of your homosexuality and immediately go home and take it up the arse from your gay husband.
That is not repentance.
Now do the same for contraception and people who attend church, stay married, don't go to confession, take communion, get confirmed later in life while married, etc.
Based on statistics, even a large portion of married Catholics use contraception, probably some in this thread. And probably publicly talk about it and SUPPORT it. Now, I'm going to agree with you - they should also be banning themselves from communion, from something like confirmation, etc.
Themselves being the key word. The Church cannot be police like this. Should EVERYONE supporting any form of abortion be banned from Communion? 100%. Should the church actively execute on that? No. It can't.
Look, I get your point, but this is dangerous territory that complicates everything, including the openness of the church.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:19 pm to Snipe
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Look I get what your saying but this particular case in not a good one to support what you're getting at.
Doesn't matter if he whet to confession and made a good confession he's married to a man (by their own admission) and living in a sinful relationship, a mortally sinful relationship.
Priest absolutely have a right and duty to discern these things and consult their superiors and refuse if the situation is as they claim and they believe that they are in mortal sin.
A lot do not do that and it's a shame because it brings scandal on the church. This has come about by design over the last 100 years by people who do not have the churches best interest at hand. In fact they purposefully enter the seminary to bring about the destruction of the church. Its a serious problem within the church but it does not define the church. Modernism may win in the short term but Christ church will not be over taken.
All of this is fair.
But you'd be singling someone out when there are many, many people actively participating in the Church and committing sin openly, see the examples above.
Plenty of Catholics support and talk publicly about contraceptives, you'd also have to ban them.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:23 pm to Freauxzen
Freauxzen,
Either the church has and holds to doctrine or it doesn't.
Some areas of sin are harder to suss out. However, a homosexual marriage is pretty easy to see. It is not a hidden sin nor an arguable situation.
An abortion can be repented... many single, sinful, even repeated acts can be repented. Constant homosexual union is not one of those acts. It is willfully living in sin.
Either the church has and holds to doctrine or it doesn't.
Some areas of sin are harder to suss out. However, a homosexual marriage is pretty easy to see. It is not a hidden sin nor an arguable situation.
An abortion can be repented... many single, sinful, even repeated acts can be repented. Constant homosexual union is not one of those acts. It is willfully living in sin.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:25 pm to jizzle6609
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For confirming him into the church? lol
We would do that for anyone who wants to find God.
its not like they got married in the church.
Keep reaching.
Id hate to be the priest in the confessional for him. Or is he not going to confess his sins?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:29 pm to jizzle6609
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We would do that for anyone who wants to find God.
Negative. The Catholic Church has clear guidelines on who and how anyone enters the faith.
1st example: Even if you were previously married in another Christian faith, the fact that you and your wife are both baptized Christians, no need to be rebaptised.
2nd example: If one of the married confirmation candidates above were previously married in another Christian faith and divorced, well, they probably have to get an annulment.
3rd example: The candidate cannot have any undue pressure to convert. If this is found, likely will be asked to separate from the confirmation process. This decision must be of the candidates free will only.
There's a lot more, but suffice to say what happened is actually an abomination.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:30 pm to SallysHuman
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Constant homosexual union is not one of those acts. It is willfully living in sin.
Is it not the same for two unmarried people/church goers having sexual relations who live together, maybe have kids? Both are mortal sins.
The only thing that makes homosexuality a sin is the butt sex. One can be gay and still not be in sin. They are required to remain celibate. Same thing goes for a couple who isnt married.
The Church doesn't recognize the marriage.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:30 pm to Freauxzen
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Based on statistics, even a large portion of married Catholics use contraception, probably some in this thread.
Condom free since 2003 over here
I definitely take communion without confession though. I thought it was only a requirement for mortal sins.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:32 pm to GRTiger
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definitely take communion without confession though. I thought it was only a requirement for mortal sins.
True. But you still are supposed to confess once a year (i assume you do else thats a mortal sin)
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:33 pm to gaetti15
quote:There are some sins that deserve excommunication, such as a rejection of the gospel or the doctrine of God, with no repentance given. However I agree that excommunication may not be immediately appropriate for someone in sexual sin like homosexuality. The issue would be if they refuse to repent of that sin. That could lead to excommunication, following the pattern of Matthew 18.
It can happen, but ex communication law is a bit out of my wheel house.
Like you are automatically ex-communicated from the Church if you commit an abortion. Idk if it works like that for butt sex
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:34 pm to gaetti15
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Is it not the same for two unmarried people/church goers having sexual relations who live together, maybe have kids? Both are mortal sins.
Agreed.
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The only thing that makes homosexuality a sin is the butt sex. One can be gay and still not be in sin. They are required to remain celibate. Same thing goes for a couple who isnt married.
Agreed.
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The Church doesn't recognize the marriage.
Doesn’t matter. Still practicing homosexuality as evidenced BY their unrecognized marriage.
What makes it most egregious is that by their very "marriage" they abhor the Church's teaching.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:37 pm to gaetti15
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(i assume you do else thats a mortal sin)
I'm not the best at it, but I did go a while not taking communion because of my delinquency in that regard.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:38 pm to ShoeBang
I didn't want to attend my ACTs retreat either. It is truly a game changer. I liked it so much, I volunteered for the next one. I strongly recommend you attend if given a chance and you will never repeat what you said here. Guaranteed.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:40 pm to SallysHuman
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Doesn’t matter. Still practicing homosexuality as evidenced BY their unrecognized marriage.
I see what your are saying now.
Yes. This would never happen in my parish thankfully.
Can't even have non-Catholic god parents in mine
Wasnt like that when I was growing up
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:40 pm to SallysHuman
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What makes it most egregious is that by their very "marriage" they abhor the Church's teaching.
So if they convert to Evangelical Christianity, problem solved?
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:42 pm to el Gaucho
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Which makes sense considering they were the first
Ooh you're going to inflame some folks here
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:42 pm to GRTiger
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So if they convert to Evangelical Christianity, problem solved?
Unitarians for sure
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:43 pm to GRTiger
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So if they convert to Evangelical Christianity, problem solved?
Depends which flavor... although God doesn't change.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:45 pm to FooManChoo
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If this guy is an unrepentant homosexual, he should have no expectation that he is saved. If he were saved, the Spirit would be convicting him to repent of his homosexuality.
I bet there's a lot of people who have no idea what you are trying to communicate.
Yes, it is completely unbelievable how this was allowed to happen.
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