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re: Catholic Cardinal angers media by rightly accusing homosexual priests

Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:24 am to
Posted by ShreveportHog94
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:24 am to
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but sadly his is the dominant publicly-acceptable viewpoint in today’s society.


Ever wonder why that is, retard? No you dont. You are perfectly happy being the ignorant trash that you are.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:24 am to
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FIFY


Right. An organization that has a bunch of allegedly voluntarily celibate people in it is absolutely a bunch of fricking creep pervs
Posted by ShreveportHog94
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:25 am to
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Right. An organization that has a bunch of allegedly voluntarily celibate people in it is absolutely a bunch of fricking creep pervs


This.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:25 am to
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Ever wonder why that is, retard? No you dont. You are perfectly happy being the ignorant trash that you are


You sure are an angry little guy

"Love Trumps hate!"
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:26 am to
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Bc they want to have sex with children. And boys are the most accessible. You act like wanting to have sex with children has anything to do with sexual orientation other than being sick by wanting to have sex with children.


That is true of pedophiles. The vast majority of cases in the church sex abuse scandal are not cases of pedophilia.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:33 am to
Being gay and liking little kids are both perversions so they’re basically the same thing
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:33 am to
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This. Not sure what that guy’s issue is.



yes, you are.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:37 am to
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Ever wonder why that is, retard? No you dont.


You don’t think I’m retarded. Let’s be fair to each other.
To that end, I’m going to concede something to you.

Your whole premise seems to be based on the idea that someone who wants to molest little kids of any sex is just a pervert and shouldn’t be called either hetero or homosexual. Ok. I don’t actually think that’s a very objectionable assertion, but it’s not the issue at hand.

These priests are engaging in sexual activity with early teenagers. They are children by our legal definitions, but they aren’t “little kids” from a biological standpoint once they have reached puberty.

Everything I have stated up to this point comes from that reality.
If you show me a priest who was abusing toddlers and little kids, I promise you I won’t say it’s because the priest is gay. I think most people would agree with me there.

If you show me a priest that is trying to force sexual activity on 13 year old boys, then I’m absolutely saying that his homosexuality had something to do with it.
If you show me 100s of priests (and higher in the Church) like that, then I’m saying that the Church absolutely has a problem with homosexual priests. And I’d be right.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:40 am to
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Right. An organization that has a bunch of allegedly voluntarily celibate people in it is absolutely a bunch of fricking creep pervs


“I myself, mired in concupiscence, a pornography addiction, and living in a sex-obsessed world, can’t imagine being voluntarily celibate; therefore, voluntary celibacy is an inherently flawed idea.”

Awesome logic, Powerman.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:52 am to
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“I myself, mired in concupiscence, a pornography addiction, and living in a sex-obsessed world, can’t imagine being voluntarily celibate; therefore, voluntary celibacy is an inherently flawed idea.”

Awesome logic, Powerman

Or how about being celibate is completely unnatural. Much more unnatural than being homosexual.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:53 am to
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Right. An organization that has a bunch of allegedly voluntarily celibate people in it is absolutely a bunch of fricking creep pervs



I think, unfortunately, that is true.

What you can infer from that is:

a.) Sick people choose the priesthood as a way of coping with their sickness

b.) Those sick people are much more likely to be homosexual

c.) Because of item b, the victims are much more likely to be young boys


Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 11:54 am to
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Or how about being celibate is completely unnatural.


You’re an expert on what’s natural?

You’re saying we don’t see it in animals and therefore it’s not possible for humans?

I’m not saying it’s easy or that it’s the right thing to do. I am saying I doubt the average modern person’s ability to judge it.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 12:00 pm to
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Or how about being celibate is completely unnatural


Celibacy is a decision. It's neither natural nor unnatural.

Certainly you understand that, right? It's almost as if you think people believe celebacy is the same as not having sexual urges.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 12:03 pm to
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And you think its bc they are homosexual? Not that they want to have sex with children and boys provide the most opportunity?


The statistics on age and post-pubescence say it's definitely worth investigating as a contributing factor.

It's not a leap to think that some men with same-sex attraction that grew up in a strong Catholic family might have felt the priesthood a logical, if not their only path. Best intentions.

Most of these men I'm sure were or are good, faithful and chaste priests (I'm pretty sure I've known two personally). But the Cardinal is stating that some did not become priests to serve God as much as escape their social situation. And the Church turned a blind eye in vetting who was who. And the inevitable result has been tragic.

BTW, this is still overwhelmingly - in my opinion - a condemnation of the Church being negligent of its responsibilities. It's not a condemnation of homosexuals en masse.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 12:05 pm to
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Celibacy is a decision. It's neither natural nor unnatural.

I suppose starving yourself to death intentionally would fall under the same umbrella.

How about severely abnormal

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It's almost as if you think people believe celebacy is the same as not having sexual urges.

Well obviously they do have sexual urges. And sexual urges are some of the toughest urges to stop. Only a sadistic fricking weirdo would voluntary commit to doing such a thing for life. Or a sexually deviant perv.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 12:07 pm to
Didn't Milo say it was a right of passage of homosexuals to be molested by an older homosexual and that's what got him in trouble?

Linking homosexuality to pedophilia as part and parcel.

The media will never ever make that connection because one is abhorrent to them and the other is not. Sandusky wasn't molesting young girls, he was molesting young boys.
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 12:12 pm to
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With over 30 citations. All this fake news to protect gay men. It's a damn conspiracy. You got them now.


ok. Let’s pretend it wasn’t a research paper with a conclusion prior to the “research”. Let’s believe what it says. It proves your assertions wrong. 47% of child molesters are homosexual


That 47% number is pretty damning against the gays when you consider only about 2% of the male population in the US is homosexual. This means 2% of the male population accounts for almost half of all child molestation. And that’s not even counting the amount of child rapes committed by men who claim to be “bi”.

The only logical conclusion one can come to is that a huge portion of the adult male population in the US have an inclination towards sexual attraction toward children and teens.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63024 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 12:14 pm to
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I suppose starving yourself to death intentionally would fall under the same umbrella.

How about severely abnormal



I don't follow your point. Choosing celebacy is certainly a sacrifice. I think that is clear to everyone other than yourself.

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Well obviously they do have sexual urges.


agree

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And sexual urges are some of the toughest urges to stop.


ok

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Only a sadistic fricking weirdo would voluntary commit to doing such a thing for life.


No. This is incorrect. There are good priests. They choose this life because they have a calling.

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Or a sexually deviant perv.



Unfortunately, this group has been attracted to the priesthood. It's the point of the OP (you agree with it), and I referenced it in my posts.

The reality of that group is that it's largely homosexual.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 1:03 pm to
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That 47% number is pretty damning against the gays when you consider only about 2% of the male population in the US is homosexual


There's so much fail in your first sentence that you don't deserve a valid response.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 1:07 pm to
Churches are literally a playground for child molesters and Homosexual Child molesters to prey on children. Read the news sometime. It isn't just catholic priests. It is music ministers, youth ministers, etc that are doing this.
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