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re: Catholic Cardinal angers media by rightly accusing homosexual priests

Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:33 am to
Posted by ShreveportHog94
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:33 am to
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So the 4 out of 5 is a healthy number you feel good defending and are okay with?


Not at all. See what what I did there? I didn't side step and deflect. Might want to take notes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:36 am to
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He’s the reverse image of what he’s accusing others of.


Yep, because it's 100% projection
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:36 am to
Others have said the same yet you choose to keep asking that lame question. You may want to stop being obtuse and childish.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:37 am to
Very accurate
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:38 am to
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He thinks it’s an anti-gay issue


Its is 100% anti-gay what you are suggesting and unfounded.

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He’s more interested in protecting the rights of gay people as gay people than he is in preventing preventable abuse


Accusing gays of being the reason kids are molested is in no way going to solve the issue. You know that but don't want reason getting in the way of gay bashing.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:39 am to
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Not at all. See what what I did there? I didn't side step and deflect.


You honestly don’t see that your “1 in 5” shtick is a deflection, do you?

Nobody is saying that you being gay means you are a child molester. Try to see that, so you can relax a bit.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:39 am to
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didn't side step and deflect.


Exactly what you've done most of the thread
Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:41 am to
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Its is 100% anti-gay what you are suggesting and unfounded.


"47% fixated" per your study linked earlier... facts hurt like a mother, don't they... Throw the bisexual in and it gets you to 60%...

Just because you want to redefine "homosexual" to keep things from not looking bad, does not make then any less true...

Posted by uway
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:43 am to
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Its is 100% anti-gay what you are suggesting and unfounded.


It’s only about gays in that the abusers are overwhelmingly homosexuals.
Reality is reality. Don’t acccuse me of bias for recognizing plain facts.
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:45 am to
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"47% fixated" per your study linked earlier... facts hurt like a mother, don't they... Throw the bisexual in and it gets you to 60%...



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Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (1978) studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180). 


I know reading was hard in high school and you haven't done much since. But try again.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:46 am to
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83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;"


What does this mean?
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:48 am to
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What does this mean?


It means men are trying to molest boys and girls. Simple as that. They are sick.

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None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation.

Your turn.
What does this mean?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:49 am to
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Accusing gays of being the reason kids are molested is in no way going to solve the issue.


Well the Catholic Church shouldn't, simply because they enabled these people.

I'm also gonna guess that a fairly large pct of Priests are gay. Just a hunch. They need to clean out the guilty, not the innocent
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:50 am to
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What does this mean?


It means men are trying to molest boys and girls.


How did you come to that conclusion? Fixated?
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None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation.

Your turn.
What does this mean?


That seems to me, it means what it clearly says.

I still don't know what "fixated" means.

ETA, I will also say, I don't know what it means there by "regressed" either.

Looks like a confusing study that I'd be wary of hanging my hat on to declare anything definitively. It also looks to be quite old (1978?).
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 10:54 am
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:50 am to
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I know reading was hard in high school and you haven't done much since. But try again.


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There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males...


And there is the redefining of "homosexual" for us all... just like the suggestion of calling it "male-male molestation" vs "homosexual molestation"... If a man diddles boys, then he is a HOMOSEXUAL... I am sorry your sexual perversion clouds your rational judgement on the matter...
Posted by ShreveportHog94
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:51 am to
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And there is the redefining of "homosexual" for us all... just like the suggestion of calling it "male-male molestation" vs "homosexual molestation"... If a man diddles boys, then he is a HOMOSEXUAL... I am sorry your sexual perversion clouds your rational judgement on the matter...


So what do you call a grown man that only wants to have sex with children?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:52 am to
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"fixated" means.
the village idiot will not admit it but it was a creative way of NOT saying "homosexual"... the entire study the fool linked is nothing more than an attempt to redefine things that do not paint homosexuals in a good light...
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6115 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:54 am to
It means fixed on sex with little boys. That's make them a child molester. Its unreal how you are concerned with the sex of the child more than the act.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:54 am to
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I know reading was hard in high school and you haven't done much since. But try again.



If you think that the quoted paragraph, in isolation, is clear in its definition of what sexual orientation comprises the 47%, then you are again projecting. This time projecting onto us your reading comprehension issues.

It’s not clearly stated in the paragraph. The only way to read it is to assume that by “fixated” they mean people who haven’t had an exclusively homosexual orientation as adults but have been so dominantly homosexual that it doesn’t make sense to call them bisexual.

So we have 47% who any fair-minded person would label homosexual.
Another 13% who are attracted to males and females.
And 40% whose sexuality is to me not clearly defined.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:55 am to
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So what do you call a grown man that only wants to have sex with children?


Wow... and another FAIL...



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