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re: Cargo ship revs up engines and steers into Bridge support
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:33 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:33 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I’ve seen several threads like this today.
link them dickhead
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:34 pm to SeaBass23
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I’m guessing the reason they stopped having tugs escort the ship through the bridge is cost. It would add $5-10k for each transit of the bridge.
It had two tugs with it until it got to the channel.
Would going a couple miles further (I have no idea what the actual distance is) add that much to the bill?
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:34 pm to GumboPot
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Should have had a harbor pilot to pilot the boat. You are not supposed to traverse any obstacles without the harbor pilot.
They chose a full moon so they would have maximum tidal shift - rise and fall. Brisk flow in that river on a normal day & have had a lot of rain recently so water was already moving along at a good pace.
Hit it with enough kinetic energy to knock the load-bearing pylon out from under the highway - which fatally weakens the span and then 50 percent of the bridge fell into the water.
Lara Logan on X
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:36 pm to Longdriver98
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:39 pm to Longdriver98
I love some conspiracy theories like 9/11 but this doesn't appear to be something done on purpose. Mayday was issued, dropped the anchor, and had local person directing.
I'd like to see tugboats stay with a ship of this size going under our large bridges.
I'd like to see tugboats stay with a ship of this size going under our large bridges.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:40 pm to BayouBlitz
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It did. 2, to be exact. This has been verified many times.
Yup. Tugs pull them off dock, get them pointed in right direction until enough speed to obtain/maintain steerage, then back off. The harbor pilot controls/takes the ships in and out of port.
The water is not like the roadway and no brakes.. once one of these ships gets speed for steerage, it can take upwards of a mile to come to a full stop.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:41 pm to BuckyCheese
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It had two tugs with it until it got to the channel. Would going a couple miles further (I have no idea what the actual distance is) add that much to the bill?
Probably not, but shippers are trying to save a penny whenever they can. Plus, if you asses the risk there are probably 4-5 container ship transits a day for 10-20 years with no issues so requiring tug escorts can be seen as excessive.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:52 pm to BayouBlitz
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It did. 2, to be exact. This has been verified many times.
Not at the bridge.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:05 pm to SeaBass23
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Probably not, but shippers are trying to save a penny whenever they can. Plus, if you asses the risk there are probably 4-5 container ship transits a day for 10-20 years with no issues so requiring tug escorts can be seen as excessive.
Tough titties?
I mean, it's not only replacing the likely billion dollar+ bridge but also the billions of dollars economic cost of it being out of service for years.
*Or they could just put dolphins around critical bridge piers. Which makes way too much sense.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:06 pm to BuckyCheese
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it being out of service for decades.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:07 pm to Longdriver98
Hacked
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:09 pm to Longdriver98
Biden has already come out and said that the American Taxpayers will pay to rebuild the bridge... And we will deal with the insurance company later...
There will be kickbacks and it will be tied up in the courts for decades...
There will be kickbacks and it will be tied up in the courts for decades...
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:10 pm to MemphisGuy
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MemphisGuy
I laughed as well. No idea why I typed decades there.
Edited to years.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:12 pm to Longdriver98
i was shocked how easy it went down.
i've watched ships run into poplar street bridge in st.louis, one ran into it after breaking free during major flood, and no major damage, but a few concrete cracks, which were fixed.
that shite fell like u were building a house of cards and wind came thru as door was opened.
i've watched ships run into poplar street bridge in st.louis, one ran into it after breaking free during major flood, and no major damage, but a few concrete cracks, which were fixed.
that shite fell like u were building a house of cards and wind came thru as door was opened.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:16 pm to Longdriver98
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instantly has the engines fire up with the exhaust plume in time to steer right into the main support beam.
You do realize that a ship (all boats really) reverses the screws to stop, right?
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:16 pm to SeeeeK
How much do you think that, almost fully loaded, ship weighs?
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:18 pm to BuckyCheese
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I mean, it's not only replacing the likely billion dollar+ bridge but also the billions of dollars economic cost of it being out of service for decades.
Just to give some perspective and I’m not justifying any action but there are a couple of issues with invoking fees based on the possibility of an accident occurring;
#1 Americans have become dependent on cheap goods imported from Asia. Any fee incurred by the shipper will be passed down to the consumer.
#2 should the government over regulate anything that might happen? Risk is inherent in the transportation industry. Should truckers be required to have a pilot car escort every time they go through a tunnel or operate in heavy traffic?
There are serious issues in the maritime industry that need to be addressed by the International Maritime Organization, Flag States , Port State Control, training institutions, etc. But the result of any changes will result in higher Amazon, grocery, Dollar store prices.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:23 pm to SeaBass23
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#1 Americans have become dependent on cheap goods imported from Asia. Any fee incurred by the shipper will be passed down to the consumer.
The ship in question can carry 10,000 20 foot containers.
Any costs incurred due to having tugs escort ships through hazardous areas would be extremely minimal to the end user. Not even pennies. Less than a penny per product in most cases using your example of consumer goods.
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#2 should the government over regulate anything that might happen? Risk is inherent in the transportation industry. Should truckers be required to have a pilot car escort every time they go through a tunnel or operate in heavy traffic?
Being hyperbolic does not help your argument.
Saying that, they do close and escort some hazardous materials through tunnels.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:25 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Andrew Tate says it was hacked
Posted on 3/26/24 at 5:27 pm to tzimme4
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Andrew Tate says it was hacked
I guess that settles it. I am pretty sure the whole world has been waiting to hear what that rapist's opinion was on the matter.
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