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re: Capitol Power Plant Evacuated - Chinese Hackers?

Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:07 pm to
Having a well placed Chinese operative in the data room of places is easily done. At that point allowances of computers hacks are but child’s play
Posted by wookalar1013
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by dakarx
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:08 pm to
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A couple reasons. 1) they still need information to move in and out. 2) true air gapped systems are extremely difficult to maintain.


From a network engineer, that's pure horseshite.

The only difficult part is preventing stupid people from coming up with new ways to do stupid things. In the private sector and DoD it is easy as we have tools to punitively punish bad actors inside.... civil service is a bit different but not impossible.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:09 pm to
Sadly, that’s entirely too accurate.
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:09 pm to
They will probably hack the Gold in Ft Knox, next
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:11 pm to
We are more awesome than I thought it we have gold embeded with computer chips that are connected to the web.
Posted by Crawdaddy
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:12 pm to
Made in China is never good
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:12 pm to
So what’s your take on this? Above my pay grade.
Posted by BobABooey
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:14 pm to
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How is it that we don't have better cyber security or are there biden leftovers that are inept?

Hackers sell exploits they discover to governments. Some sell to the highest bidder, some only sell to certain countries, etc. The US buys exploits like everyone else in the hopes they can use them against our enemies one day.

The hackers don’t report the exploits to software manufacturers and everyone hopes the software folks don’t find the exploit on their own.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:14 pm to
Ah, it's time to plant the cYbErAttAcK seeds, I see...
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:18 pm to
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that's pure horseshite.


Technician plugs in a laptop, vendor needs remote maintenance, someone needs to transfer data, USB drive gets used, engineer needs access to both environments, monitoring system needs to communicate with another system, a supposedly isolated device gets connected during an upgrade, etc. etc. etc.

IT and OT can accidentally converge and large organizations may not even have complete visibility into what all is connected.

I'm not saying it's impossible. Just difficult.

And again, these organizations still need data moving in and out. You asked a question, I answered it. Am I satisfied with the answer? No, I wish our systems were invulnerable to hostile actors, but they're not.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:30 pm to
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How is it that we don't have better cyber security
Likely an AI enhanced attack, making the cybersecurity issue even more relevant.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:33 pm to
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Likely an AI enhanced attack, making the cybersecurity issue even more relevant.


I read that they have had a foothold into these systems for years now.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:47 pm to
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How is it that we don't have better cyber security or are there biden leftovers that are inept?



China has better AI?? In China, anything being developed by AI research and developers is property of the CCP.
In the US, not so.
I don't know if this has anything to do with this, but...... it's an obvious question.

Also, Shawn Ryan interviewed Kevin Madia who owns and operates a Cyber security company and discusses this issues at length.


quote:

Kevin Mandia is CEO of Armadin, where he leads the company's mission to secure some of the world's largest and most complex environments. A globally recognized cybersecurity leader, he is also a General Partner at Ballistic Ventures, mentoring and investing in the next generation of cybersecurity entrepreneurs. Best known as the founder of Mandiant and former CEO of FireEye, Mandia helped redefine the cybersecurity industry through pioneering digital forensics, the groundbreaking APT1 report exposing state-sponsored cyber espionage, and his leadership during the SolarWinds attack. Today, he continues to shape cybersecurity strategy, national security policy, and the future of AI-driven defense



This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 12:52 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:48 pm to
Critical infrastructure, such as water plants, energy grids, etc. do not need to be "hacked" from FedGov. Shodan lets you find vulnerable systems easily. Here is one of the results when I searched "municipal"
quote:

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2026 14:30:27 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Connection: keep-alive
Location: LINK
Server: cloudflare
CF-RAY: a31388d70fd2cbb9-AMS


None of this is new, exciting or shocking. The Purdue model for industrial control systems segregation/protection was published in the mid 90s.

quote:

Recent data from global OT security reports shows alarming trends:

OT-focused attacks increased by over 65% in 2024.
42% of companies reported at least one ICS disruption due to a cyber incident.
Modern ransomware groups (LockBit, Black Basta, Play) now target OT as their primary objective, not just IT.
Zero-day vulnerabilities in PLCs, HMIs, and gateways are rising, driven by nation-state actors.
Legacy equipment-often decades old-continues to run insecure-by-design protocols with no authentication or encryption.

The reality:

This blog breaks down the Top 10 OT vulnerabilities attackers exploit today, why they matter, and what organizations must do to secure critical operations.

1. Legacy OT Systems With Insecure-by-Design Protocols
Why this is the #1 exploited vulnerability

OT protocols such as Modbus, DNP3, PROFINET, OPC DA, and BACnet were built in an era when isolation was the only security.
They still lack:

Authentication
Authorization
Encryption
Integrity checks
Logging
Attackers exploit this to send malicious commands, alter process values, or impersonate legitimate devices.

Real-World Impact

Changing chemical mixture values in a plant
Manipulating generator load settings
Disabling safety interlocks
Triggering shutdowns or equipment damage

Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:01 pm to
The ATF is now investigating a cyber attack aimed at a standalone system.

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Posted by BigTigerJoe
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Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:47 pm to
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They're also saying that the Chinese have hacked various critical US infrastructure such as the Federal Reserve. May be something to keep an eye on. The Chicoms are getting froggy.

And yet, US elections, are totally secure from foreign hackers and interference.
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