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Can we admit what polling has become?

Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:13 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:13 pm
It has become a Dem tool to suppress Republican voting. Pure and simple. Fudge the numbers enough, make things hopeless, and people will throw their hands up and avoid voting. Problem is, the media's credibility being so low has also hurt the polling data's effectiveness.

In any case, watching the party of victimhood lose

This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted by StrangeBrew
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Member since May 2009
18184 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:16 pm to
That and polling companies charging a boat load of money to tell Dems what they want to hear up until two days before.
30M of outside money needs to be spent somewhere outside of walkin around money
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:17 pm to
If anything, I think it encourages republicans to vote and dems to stay home in a reverse psychology manner. If we see we are down, we will show to the polls to try and win and vice versa.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34764 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:18 pm to
Yep. It's the same with with approval rating polls. They are all worthless
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112650 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:19 pm to
Perhaps you are right. They've been getting absolutely rocked since 2014.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:19 pm to
Nothing less than a tool for manipulation by leftists in the media
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45810 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

It has become a Dem tool to suppress Republican voting. Pure and simple. Fudge the numbers enough, make things hopeless, and people will throw their hands up and avoid voting. Problem is, the media's credibility being so low has also hurt the polling data's effectiveness.


Yep.
Posted by footwedge
Member since Feb 2010
795 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:24 pm to
It's also to help make their cheating less blatant. try to change expectations so can cast more illegal votes.
Posted by jmitc22
Brrrrr
Member since Jan 2007
1683 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:25 pm to
Ask Gary Johnson about the validity of political polling
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27921 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:32 pm to
And some on here was arguing that Nate Aluminum wasn't tweaking his methods in order to affect votes

Polls are now designed only to shape votes
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112650 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:34 pm to
Did someone alert buckeye_vol yet ?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:34 pm to
Sigh

Late polls pushed Handel ahead in the RCP average, and aligned with a bump for Trump.

Polls in the primary accurately reflected that Ossoff was very close to winning outright.

If you want to believe in cooked polls, that's fine, but some polls definitely deserve credit (Trafalgar).
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27921 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Sigh

The polls had him at +5, right up until she won by +7

That's 12 points. Sorry, No way you get that disparity without cooking the books
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112650 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:37 pm to
Mate, you strike me as a true believer in the system.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:38 pm to
They need to realize that with nobody having land phones anymore and no one willing to answer the door for anyone but an Amazon delivery anymore, there's just no way to reliably poll anymore. Polling is dead. All you can do is have internet polls that just get brigaded by trolls.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79221 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

The polls had him at +5, right up until she won by +7

That's 12 points. Sorry, No way you get that disparity without cooking the books


That's a great upvote getting comment

It's just not true

RCP average swung to Handel at the end, with GOP polling coming it, for the first time in a while at Handel +2.

Is a 5 point difference there because we're cooking polls against ourselves?

Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:41 pm to
quote:

Sigh


Sigh all you want. Leading up to the end they had Ossoff up by 5 points 7 days ago. 2 days ago by 3.

The whole narrative was this was headed to a Trump disaster.






Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79221 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

Mate, you strike me as a true believer in the system.



LOL

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112650 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:43 pm to
It's true, innit?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79221 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:44 pm to
Stop talking like SirWinston

what system? If anything, I'm more likely to be labeled a contrarian (but I object to that)
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