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re: Can the MAGA/America First Movement Survive American military operations in Iran?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:05 am to LuckyTiger
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:05 am to LuckyTiger
You're right on the first two points, but I disagree on the last one. Trump is going to help Bibi go HAM with any assistance possible and supporters will say "see, we didn't get directly involved."
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Many will return to sucking off little Ronnie high heels as evidenced when they abandoned MAGA in 2021
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Well this is a 90/10 losing proposition for Trump. I personally am America first and will always be that way regardless if Trump is leading that group or not.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:05 am to Bunk Moreland
The reality is that MAGA is going to look wildly different in 18 months anyway.
Most likely our candidate in 2028 is going to be Vance, Rubio or DeSantis and none of them operate like Trump. None of them will have much use for the legions of drone-like warrior fans, the useless grifting influencers and none of them will have their agenda predicated on flattery. My point isn't to trash Trump, some of this will lead to less enthusiasm and could alter the map, but the point is that it'll be very different and none of them are likely to build their movement around followers who adopt whatever the candidate says on a given day in the same manner as DJT.
So while I think MAGA can survive this almost entirely intact, I'm not sure it really matters if there is some fracturing.
Most likely our candidate in 2028 is going to be Vance, Rubio or DeSantis and none of them operate like Trump. None of them will have much use for the legions of drone-like warrior fans, the useless grifting influencers and none of them will have their agenda predicated on flattery. My point isn't to trash Trump, some of this will lead to less enthusiasm and could alter the map, but the point is that it'll be very different and none of them are likely to build their movement around followers who adopt whatever the candidate says on a given day in the same manner as DJT.
So while I think MAGA can survive this almost entirely intact, I'm not sure it really matters if there is some fracturing.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:07 am to Proximo
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Many will return to sucking off little Ronnie
RDS has nothing to do with this discussion.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:08 am to Pettifogger
At the end of the day we have two choices.
A radical leftist pretending to be moderate or a guy or gal with an R by their name even it’s not a real Capital R.
A radical leftist pretending to be moderate or a guy or gal with an R by their name even it’s not a real Capital R.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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Can the MAGA/America First Movement Survive American military operations in Iran?
Would this split only occur with ordinary boots on the ground?
What if we only bombed Iran and maybe some spec ops?
If we did a Ukraine scenario where we just provide them with weapons, how bad would that be?
Or could MAGA survive with a full on operation with no splinter factions?
Ok. I won't dodge the question or hedge.
Yes.
From a MAGA standpoint, they're not fully on board with war yet. But as soon as Trump tells them the bombs have started dropping, they'll forgive it or rationalize it away. In fact, in some ways they've already begun doing this.
Trump, Israel and the MIC know how to market a war (especially the MIC). This shite didn't start in mid-June by accident.
You start something like this right about the time those patriotic juices get to flowing. If you're going to market and PR a war, you do it right before July 4th.
The closer we get to Lee Greenwood, the more it will escalate. Once the fireworks start, MAGA will have its war lust on. They're suckers for all that shite. Some jets flying, with a little shock and awe, just like the old days and it's on.
All Orange has to do is get MAGA all up in its patriotic feels, and they're on board. MAGA's easy like that. Trump and the MIC both know it.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:09 am to Proximo
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Many will return to sucking off little Ronnie high heels as evidenced when they abandoned MAGA in 2021
I have a feeling youre a big WWE fan
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:09 am to momentoftruth87
SFP never loses on here. The sooner you realize that, the less pathetic he comes off. He’s all about winning message boards for Ecred
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:09 am to SlowFlowPro
If we get involved it would be best just to have 2-3 days of bombing and destroying Iran and move on . We don’t need another Ukraine constantly costing us money . It would be a different situation than the Ukraine one . We would be helping the stronger country that wants to destroy the other .
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:11 am to Seldom Seen
NO. Unnecessary military involvement is a key tenet of the MAGA movement. Like it or not, a sizeable chunk will bail if we attack Iran. Still praying it’s 4D chess and I’m beginning to lean more that way.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:12 am to SlowFlowPro
Far too much speculation in your post to know how it would play out.
One thing for sure, a bunch of posters have lost it over this and nothing has really happened yet.
One thing for sure, a bunch of posters have lost it over this and nothing has really happened yet.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:13 am to Pandy Fackler
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The closer we get to Lee Greenwood, the more it will escalate. Once the fireworks start, MAGA will have its war lust on. They're suckers for all that shite. Some jets flying, with a little shock and awe, just like the old days and it's on.
You're wrong. The polls might even mask it for a while bc he'd get a temporary bump. But he'd lose at least 25% of his true MAGA base if this happened (and, Id argue - the most vocal part of his base).
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:15 am to SirWinston
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But he'd lose at least 25% of his true MAGA base.
I for one can't wait for the purity tests.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
what's the option?
to throw our support for anti-god, anti-family values, men in women's sports, open borders, late term abortion, green energy scam, etc.?
to throw our support for anti-god, anti-family values, men in women's sports, open borders, late term abortion, green energy scam, etc.?
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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There's too much in-group for people to risk fully turning their back on this social group/identification they've invested so much in for going on a decade.
Of course you take the least charitable interpretation of why people have aligned with Trump.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:16 am to Mandtgr47
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to throw our support for anti-god, anti-family values, men in women's sports, open borders, late term abortion, green energy scam, etc.?
There are more options than MAGA or that
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:17 am to Earnest_P
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Of course you take the least charitable interpretation of why people have aligned with Trump.
I didn't describe "why" they aligned with Trump.
I'm describing the effects of being aligned with MAGA/America First, for so long.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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What if we only bombed Iran and maybe some spec ops?
if its a 1989 Panama situation, with some bad arse delta missions and few cool bomb videos people will eat it up
Posted on 6/17/25 at 10:17 am to SirWinston
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argue - the most vocal part of his base).
The most ardent will leave him?
Come on man. You think SDV and crew will ever leave him for any reason?
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