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re: Can the autopen be traced?

Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:41 pm to
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It is electronic… so? How does that affect the investigation? Could it be controlled by an outside source?


Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:44 pm to
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So no, I don’t think for a moment they were that careful.
Knowing full well that 47 coming in with the revenge vendetta to end all revenge vendettas would send them to the metaphorical (or literal) gallows if he had the smoking guns? Wild lack of self-preservation skills if so
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 9:45 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8350 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:45 pm to
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I imagine there are hundreds of cameras in the White House.


Except for the room where the cocaine is stored.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19305 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:13 pm to
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Wild lack of self-preservation skills if so
Honestly, they just don’t think that way.

Look at how long they completely concealed how much Biden had deteriorated, and how easily they got away with it. It didn’t even take much effort because if how completely insulated they were by the layers around them.

Why do you think so many pardons were issued to people with no crimes specified?
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:40 am to
If I recall correctly, it’s supposed to be only available for an assigned staffer. The Biden administration apparently allowed multiple staffers to use it whenever.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
25674 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:23 am to
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how completely insulated they were by the layers around them.




They were insulated by a complicit media. And they were oblivious to the complete collapse of confidence in the corporate media, even while it was all burning down in front of their eyes.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:36 am to
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Unless they were smart enough to program in subtle changes in every signature.

I believe analysis has shown that they're identical.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:39 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:40 am to
Posted by BeachTiger2018
Pinellas County FL
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:21 am to
I think it was put into law under W’s admin that the auto pen could be used anytime anywhere by anyone but only if the president gave direct approval/instruction.

Mike Johnson specifically asked Biden why he authorized the EO that paused natural gas to Europe and Biden insisted he never signed or authorized it, yet there is an autopenned signature of Joey right there on it.

It’s clear Biden’s handlers and inner circle used his diminished capacity to essentially make executive decisions on their own and the autopen allowed them to do it in completion. Whether this was through deceiving and misleading Potato to give them approval, or if he was too diminished to be aware of any press coverage that would have made him aware of EOs signed without his knowledge, who knows.

If it could be proved it would be a historic scandal of epic proportions.

At minimum the autopen either needs to be done away with or safeguards put in place to ensure this could never happen again.

Mike Johnson
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26228 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:29 am to
Just another right wing fantasy to distract and anger you while they take away something else.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7293 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:45 am to
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raced how? If every signature is the same, autopen.


There are services out there that use robots to write handwritten letters. The entire point of the service is that it varies like a human, in how they stroke individual letters inconsistently, angles, etc. They do envelopes, too.

My company uses this service. I've visited with a couple vendors at trade shows. You can google it.

Autopen isn't the only way to robotically sign stuff. Think mass mailings, book signings, etc.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
21837 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 9:15 am to
My point is that everybody is assuming that there was only one person who controlled the Autopen.. there has to be many people that controlled the autopen
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
70772 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:08 am to
It begs the question: Was Biden impaired before or after the cancer meds that they never told us about?
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:31 am to

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Posted by CC
Smyrna, GA
Member since Feb 2004
15013 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:41 am to
I guess yhe autopen just sits next to the copier where anyone can put the President’s signature on anything?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46281 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:53 am to
In any case - THIS needs to have a Special Prosecutor give it a thorough rectal exam and report to the nation.

At the very minimum we have witness a total failure of our executive system - and our national security has been left vulnerable by either a babbling idiot, or worse, conspirators in synch with non-American interests.

the odor of TREASON reeks from this fiasco.
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1107 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:10 pm to
You would think that anyone with access to it would need their own pin number to use it and it would log the date and time.

I know we can't use the postage machine at work without a pin, you'd think the autopen with the signature of the leader of the free world would have some kind of security feature.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 12:11 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
75579 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:17 pm to
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Just another right wing fantasy to distract and anger you while they take away something else.


This is exactly what the left has done repeatedly for years, including this scandal. You have to either be a bot or just a weird troll.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12740 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:20 pm to
They can time the signature to the where about of Biden. He was rarely in the office and relaxing or sleeping. There are ways to find out. Did he authorize signatures by phone? That should show up.
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