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re: Can someone explain to me why the government is on the verge of a shutdown?

Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2361 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:19 pm to
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Of course this is not remotely true.

The issue is the premium subsidy for ACA policies. That is not for undocumented migrants.


This is not exactly true. The fight is about the states that allow the use of state funds to fund illegal immigrant healthcare. The argument essentially is "why are we giving you matching funds for your coffers when you just take the money from your coffers and give it to illegal aliens in the form of free health care."

So, whenever you see someone argue that the Republicans aren't being truthful because it is against federal law to fund free healthcare for illegal aliens, they aren't telling you the whole truth.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
36833 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:21 pm to
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The democrats are demanding $1 TRILLION for illegal healthcare and illegal benefits. Republicans are telling them to frick off and Trump has them by the balls.


Why are democrats such shiteheads? Everyone else pays for their healthcare

Why do illegals deserve it for free ? Frick all that shite . They can pay and buy policies like we all do .

Or they can go back to where they came from

Subsidizing freeloading illegals is not in my dna. I don’t believe in it

Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
1730 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:35 pm to
Don’t worry the Rinos will cave like always because they get anxious and upset.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15170 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:38 pm to
Sit this one out loser
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:39 pm to
Republicans don’t get anything done
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11114 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:40 pm to
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This cycle, the republicans refuse to negotiate. So we are headed to shut down.


What is there to negotiate? Dems care about illegals, republicans care about Americans first. Trump has them by the balls. Everyday Americans will see what this is truly about.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27294 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:48 pm to
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I thought the issue was ACA subsidies to help people who can’t afford it get insurance? And to get said subsidies you have to be a citizen so illegals don’t enter the picture?

Illegal immigrants are completely ineligible for coverage under the ACA. You are correct. This is a false narrative that republicans are pushing in hopes that average people are too uninformed to see it for the lie that it is.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27294 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:50 pm to
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The fight is about the states that allow the use of state funds to fund illegal immigrant healthcare.

Some states do commit state funds for healthcare for all regardless of immigration status. That is true. But there is no federal match or federal funding for any such program. That has nothing to do with the federal budget.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Member since Jun 2011
2242 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:53 pm to
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All this talk about Democrats, but don't Republicans have the majority in the House? Where's the roadblock?


It's already passed the House. The roadblock is in the Senate and this will require 60 votes to end debate and push to a vote.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72776 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 2:54 pm to
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Of course this is not remotely true. The issue is the premium subsidy for ACA policies. That is not for undocumented migrants. That is for the US of A’s working poor


disingenuous bullshite from a far leftist
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4410 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:16 pm to
Give all of the illegals medical care: a Tylenol while on the next plane to South America...........................................
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4410 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:20 pm to
And it's not, and never was, affordable.



Another money laundering system.
Posted by Chinese Bandit Boy
Member since Jun 2021
875 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:25 pm to
The house has already passed bill and adjourned. This leavs the shutdown in the Senate's lap.
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2361 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:28 pm to
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But there is no federal match or federal funding for any such program.


You are trying to be clever but it's not really clever. "Any such program"--no kidding. But, am I correct that there is matching that is given to the states? Of course I'm correct. So, what happens to those federal matching dollars? Dollars are fungible.

You are basically saying, "Yes, states give dollars for illegal alien healthcare...but not THOSE dollars." Cash is fungible.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18795 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:30 pm to
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This cycle, the republicans refuse to negotiate. So we are headed to shut down.


Refuse? Maybe if Democrats weren't being their usual dishonest, grossly uneducated selves but as is typical of the Left, they can't help themselves.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16066 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:34 pm to
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This cycle, the republicans refuse to negotiate. So we are headed to shut down.




Uhh.. this is a clean CR for 7 weeks that ALLOWS negotiations.

You drones try so hard to spread your programming per your downloaded commands.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3442 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:36 pm to
Because not even Republicans want to do the Constitutional thing and pass an actual BUDGET.

They're all terrible people. Any of you thinking one group is any better than the other are just fooling yourselves. None of them actually want what's best for you and me.
Posted by umrebel2009
Member since Feb 2010
8122 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:42 pm to
If the government shuts down in the woods and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
2166 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:47 pm to
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What am I missing?


A copy of the script.





None of the alleged party "teams," characters and scripts involving DC WWE "politics" and can be believed at face value.
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
4020 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:49 pm to
Shutting it down.
Vance & Johnson live press conference. Dems want 1.5 trillion added to a 7 week CR. My President told them GFY.
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