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re: Can dignity exist in a capitalist society?

Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:42 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:42 am to
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and think its true.
Does she?
Or is she perhaps using the board response to enlighten her argument?

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:43 am to
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He wants government intervention into markets, which makes them less free.


This is quite the leap.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:44 am to
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Or is she perhaps using the board response to enlighten her argument?


Based on her responses, absolutely believes it.

Its not her first rodeo trying to push capitalism as the prime reason for societal dysfunction.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:44 am to
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Does she?


Thank you!

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Or is she perhaps using the board response to enlighten her argument?


Exactly. Just looking for other perspectives.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:45 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:45 am to
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We were discussing marginalized people and whether or not society treats them with dignity.


Who did you all determine was marginalized?
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:46 am to
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Who did you all determine was marginalized?

Shockingly, my focus is on incarcerated and formerly incarcerated people.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:47 am to
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Capitalism treats humans as a means to an end (profit), so can any human be dignified when they are essentially dehumanized by our economic system?



You have to be pretty uneducated to state something like this with decades of Communism and failed Socialist governments in the historical context.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:48 am to
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Capitalism treats humans as a means to an end (profit), so can any human be dignified when they are essentially dehumanized by our economic system?


Capitalism isnt an entity, its an absurd question. Its a collection of economic decisions from every individual.

Ironically, communism is far closer to an entity as you are subject to the economic decisions of a select few...and nobody is ever dehumanized as much as in a communist country.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:50 am to
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focus is on incarcerated and formerly incarcerated people.
There it is.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109599 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:50 am to
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Shockingly, my focus is on incarcerated and formerly incarcerated people.


Is there something unique about how a "capitalist society" treats such individuals? It seems to me sort an odd thing to tie to that.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:51 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:51 am to
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He has an impressive resume.
Which translates to what?
In capitalist terms, consumers are free to determine worth.
How does that translate in terms of his resume?

It's virtually assured the man feels Capitalism undervalues his CV.
It's virtually assured the man feels undignified as his perceived value wanes by comparison to others (e.g., women) to whom he sees himself as superior.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:53 am to
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It seems to me sort an odd thing to tie to that.


Inmates are used as cheap/free labor.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 11:54 am
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:55 am to
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Shockingly, my focus is on incarcerated and formerly incarcerated people.


So criminals.... people who break the law. Your focus is on people who cannot exist within the boundaries set forth by the society in which they live because they simply choose not to.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:55 am to
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Inmates are used as cheap/free labor.



They should be, part of how they pay their debts to society.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:56 am to
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Inmates are used as cheap/free labor.

It's called "earning your keep".
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:56 am to
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Inmates are used as cheap/free labor.


Seems that has happened pretty much everywhere throughout history.

I'm not sure it's a function at all of "capitalist society." You believe it is?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:57 am to
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Seems that has happened pretty much everywhere throughout history.



What do communists do with their criminals?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84070 posts
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:58 am to
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Seems that has happened pretty much everywhere throughout history.

I'm not sure it's a function at all of "capitalist society." You believe it is?
Naw, clearly the only jails are in capitalistic societies.

The whole point of the idiotic thread was a new and exciting angle for her drivel concerning jailed people. that's all.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:58 am to
Such a commie dipshit
Posted by AkronTiger
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:58 am to
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Capitalism treats humans as a means to an end (profit), so can any human be dignified when they are essentially dehumanized by our economic system?


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