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California passes bill forcing companies to re-classify workers

Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:42 pm
LA Times

California gonna California.

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California lawmakers rewrote the rules of employment across a wide swath of industries Wednesday in legislation that could grant hundreds of thousands of workers new job benefits and pay guarantees.


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The 6,700-word bill, one of the most controversial of the year, could upend the relationship between workers and bosses across businesses as varied as ride-hailing tech giants, construction, healthcare, trucking, janitorial services, nail salons, adult entertainment, commercial fishing and newspapers. The message of the legislation, said its author, Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez (D-San Diego), is “your business cannot game the system by misclassifying its workers. As lawmakers, we will not in good conscience allow free-riding businesses to continue to pass their own business costs onto taxpayers and workers.



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“Employers shirk responsibility for safety net programs like workers’ compensation and unemployment insurance. Taxpayers are left to foot the bill.” The legislation was pushed by a powerful coalition of labor unions, many of which have suffered stagnating membership as companies classify large chunks of their workforces as independent contractors. Under federal law, only employees can join unions and collectively bargain for wages and benefits.

Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:44 pm to
I suppose, at this point, they're just daring businesses to relocate.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41691 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:12 pm to
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good conscience
Hah..
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45815 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:14 pm to
Sooner than later, Cali will be the next Detroit
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7160 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:16 pm to
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, they're just daring businesses to relocate.


More like encouraging!
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7160 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:17 pm to
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Sooner than later, Cali will be the next Detroit


Kinda is now with nicer weather.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17306 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:20 pm to
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“your business cannot game the system by misclassifying its workers. As lawmakers, we will not in good conscience allow free-riding businesses to continue to pass their own business costs onto taxpayers and workers."
Oh, so NOW they care about businesses violating labor laws and socializing costs in California?



This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27583 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:21 pm to
This is really directed at Uber/Lyft. They will kill rideshare.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1134 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:22 pm to
They're taking the valley for granted. Once it goes ca is done.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8012 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:27 pm to
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This is really directed at Uber/Lyft. They will kill rideshare.


I am pretty convinced that if Uber hadn't have been founded and headquartered in the state, they would have already told them to frick off and removed services completely like they did in Austin.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:28 pm to
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I suppose, at this point, they're just daring businesses to relocate.


Of course this is a terrible law.

But you know what, at some point I am tempted to just say it's those companies own fault for doing business in such an openly hostile state.

Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2621 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:29 pm to
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they're just daring businesses to relocate. More like encouraging!



many can't relocate, but when the owners die, or the business dies, no one will keep them going or open up new ones
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:29 pm to
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adult entertainment


Make pron great again!
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:30 pm to
That loud whooshing noise is business leaving
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11921 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:36 pm to
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I suppose, at this point, they're just daring businesses to relocate.


The problem here is that business will relocate to place like Texas. The business will bring people from California to Texas. The new people in Texas will vote for the same people they put in office in California. The new politicians will turn places like Texas into California.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57261 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 5:02 pm to
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But you know what, at some point I am tempted to just say it's those companies own fault for doing business in such an openly hostile state.




...and their employees for electing people who are hostile to business.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 5:10 pm to
Republicans nationwide need to start screaming F*CKING LOUD AND CLEAR that we will not bail out these dip-sh*t states when they go bankrupt!

The writing is on the wall... these states are going to drive companies out, eventually run out of money, go bancrupt... and they are going to want the good taxpayers of Texas, NC, Tenn,... RED STATES to bail them out.

Republicans need to let them know right now that they can get that stupid idea out of their head. I'd rather the country split than pay for the irresponsibility of the corrupt unionized Leftist Democrats.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 5:11 pm
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
2130 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 5:25 pm to
If these Uber drivers get their way and are allowed to unionize, get minimum wage, etc then the rides will become more expensive and not as many people will use Uber anymore. Less money for the drivers.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15647 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:56 pm to
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If these Uber drivers get their way and are allowed to unionize, get minimum wage, etc then the rides will become more expensive and not as many people will use Uber anymore. Less money for the drivers.

They don’t think this far into it.
They just think these companies sit on piles of cash and laugh sinisterly while they don’t give drivers health insurance. If being an Uber or Lyft driver is your career goal then you need to get your priorities in order. It’s designed for people to do on the side for extra cash.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57261 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:17 pm to
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The legislation was pushed by a powerful coalition of labor unions, many of which have suffered stagnating membership as companies classify large chunks of their workforces as independent contractors. Under federal law, only employees can join unions and collectively bargain for wages and benefits.


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