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re: California is Screwed when it comes to Gas Prices - I mean, really screwed
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:27 pm to Riverside
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:27 pm to Riverside
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VW bus use to leave a trail of smog
Nicely done, using a leftie adored vehicle against them. I hope he complains about 2 stroke lawn equipment used by brown people next.
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Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:31 pm to Clark14
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They had a terrible air pollution, smog, problem and I guess it’s costing them plenty of money to keep it from happening again. Smog used to be a nightly joke on the Johnny Carson show. Pick your poison I guess.
The boutique blend of gasoline helps smog? You sure that clean emissions from vehicles aren’t the major impact on the levels of smog?
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:49 pm to beaux duke
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wut?
*what?
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it would be reducing smog by tens of millions of cars using a cleaner burning fuel. how is that difficult to understand? not saying it's the right call but come on guy
In that case every major city in the world should have smog and use this shitty expensive fuel?
Muh guy?
Posted on 12/16/25 at 11:55 pm to Clark14
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They had a terrible air pollution
We still do here in the Valley and that is a big reason for a lot of the regulations that you see coming out of Sacramento. The Sierras are visible from our bedroom. On a good day we can see the Coastal Range which is 50 plus miles to the west. The Sierra foothills are about 15 miles away. During the summertime this will disappear behind the haze:
Those are 10,000’+ peaks.
It was estimated that asthma related illnesses cost the state $13 billion dollars annually as of 2019. Asthma is a big problem in the Central Valley.
If we get enough data that shows the air quality improving dramatically during summer it’s a big win for us here. However, a good amount of air pollution carries across the Pacific from Asia (along with Bay Area pollution) that settles here. There’s no stopping the Asia originating crap but we should do what we can to improve things locally. That will begrudgingly come at an additional cost but what has been the status quo hasn’t been good and we’re directly impacted.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:00 am to Clark14
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They had a terrible air pollution, smog, problem and I guess it’s costing them plenty of money to keep it from happening again
Had?
They always will, no matter the designer gas mandated by the state. Denver has the same issues and it’s caused by the landscape and the fact that the population of both cities has exponentially grown in the last 50 years. They’re both located in basins, i.e. you used to be able to first glimpse the Rockies from Limon, Co. out on the plains from 90 miles away in the 70’s which is no longer the case.
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Los Angeles's geography is a major factor in its smog problem, creating a natural "bowl" with mountains trapping pollutants, which, combined with abundant sunshine, vehicle emissions, and temperature inversions, leads to significant smog buildup that doesn't easily disperse. This basin effect, where air is held close to the ground, is crucial to the LA smog issue,
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:12 am to FLTech
At some point people will realize the goal isn’t cleaner burning vehicles, it’s the elimination of the mobility of the common voters.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:17 am to FLTech
I love it when I go to Cali for work. I get reimbursed for gas so I get an assload of Hilton and AA points on my cards
Posted on 12/17/25 at 12:49 am to Figgy
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That will begrudgingly come at an additional cost
Additional cost to you, or the guy making $14 an hour supporting a family of five in the valley? You can continue to buy oat milk at Whole Foods, but the working class devote twice their income to getting to work as they do in Texas. Winning?
How much of that money is used to clear brush that feeds wildfires every year, which pollute your view and put thousands of tons of ash in the sky? When the Bastrop Fire destroyed 1/3 a billion in property, and burned down hundreds of acres of trees? Compare what Texas did to CA (one rebuild completed in the Palisades!)
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Legislative and Policy Changes
Increased Funding for Firefighting Resources:
Texas allocated additional funds for purchasing equipment and resources for local firefighting departments to improve their operational capabilities.
Creation of the Texas A&M Forest Service Wildfire Risk Reduction Program:
This program offers services to help communities assess and mitigate wildfire risks, including educational resources on fire prevention.
Enhanced Building Codes:
Some counties adopted stricter building codes that require fire-resistant materials in new constructions, particularly in areas prone to wildfires.
Emergency Management Improvements
Improved Communication Systems:
Investments were made in advanced communication systems for better coordination among local, state, and federal agencies during emergencies.
Public Awareness Campaigns:
Initiatives were launched to educate residents about fire safety, evacuation procedures, and creating defensible space around properties.
Land Management and Planning
Controlled Burns and Fuel Reduction:
Agencies increased the use of controlled burns and other land management practices to reduce flammable vegetation and improve ecological health.
Firebreaks and Green Belts:
Development of firebreaks and green belts to create barriers against the spread of wildfires and protect residential areas.
Volunteer and Community Involvement
Community Firewise Programs:
Encouragement of community involvement in fire prevention efforts through Firewise programs, which help neighborhoods develop local fire prevention strategies.
Volunteer Firefighter Training:
Increased training and resources for volunteer fire departments to improve their readiness and efficiency in responding to wildfires.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 1:49 am to LemmyLives
Are you under the impression that I’m a lib? Because whatever in the heck you’re talking about and the made up accusations came out of nowhere and you’re reading way into things that simply aren’t there if that’s the case.
Additional costs can take various forms that impact everyone out here to some extent. But the Valley can use the help. We’re on the frontlines here. The pollution has to be addressed. So cleaner burning gasoline, zero emission vehicles and so on.. the state is investing somewhat heavily in hydrogen right now as a new fuel source.
Oat milk and whole freaking foods….
never had it and avoid shopping there.
Regarding the forests… the sierra club is a disaster. Check out the Creek Fire from 2020. That was just up the hill from Fresno. We know good and well how badly mismanaged the state lands are. It’s our backyard. I mention the Creek Fire and state managed forest for a reason. SoCal Edison also manages lands right where that fire rolled through. But Edison does prescribed burns on their land while the state didn’t. The results spoke for themselves and showed the folly of the sierra club types that have far too much influence in Sacramento. They blame climate change and do little to help clean up the forests where we’ve had over 100 million trees die throughout the forests over the last decade.
Additional costs can take various forms that impact everyone out here to some extent. But the Valley can use the help. We’re on the frontlines here. The pollution has to be addressed. So cleaner burning gasoline, zero emission vehicles and so on.. the state is investing somewhat heavily in hydrogen right now as a new fuel source.
Oat milk and whole freaking foods….
never had it and avoid shopping there. Regarding the forests… the sierra club is a disaster. Check out the Creek Fire from 2020. That was just up the hill from Fresno. We know good and well how badly mismanaged the state lands are. It’s our backyard. I mention the Creek Fire and state managed forest for a reason. SoCal Edison also manages lands right where that fire rolled through. But Edison does prescribed burns on their land while the state didn’t. The results spoke for themselves and showed the folly of the sierra club types that have far too much influence in Sacramento. They blame climate change and do little to help clean up the forests where we’ve had over 100 million trees die throughout the forests over the last decade.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:17 am to FLTech
I’ll gladly pay. The wages are higher than they would be in most red states and I love California. If people can’t afford it, they are free to leave. In 2024 California had a negative net migration of 197k, for a state of nearly 40 million, that’s insignificant. Don’t get fooled by right wing talking points.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:49 am to Scottysd20
California is covered with trash and the litter on the streets and highways is disgusting too.
It’s a terrible place.
It’s a terrible place.
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