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re: CA avocado farmer laments immigration crackdown- i can’t pick my crop
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:45 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:45 pm to Covingtontiger77
Also, if this dude was less low T whiny bitch and more high T entrepreneur, he would call his farm organic and post it on WWOOF.
There is a line of hippie chicks a mile long waiting to work on WWOOF farms.
LINK
And they work for free!
There is a line of hippie chicks a mile long waiting to work on WWOOF farms.
LINK
And they work for free!
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:56 pm to IllegalPete
Drove past a field yesterday full of Hispanics chopping cotton. Hispanics are just the new form of slave labor.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:59 pm to ClientNumber9
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Americans would pick avocados and other fruits and vegetables for $20 an hour.
I doubt it. Americans are just too damn lazy
Posted on 6/16/18 at 2:26 am to Covingtontiger77
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You People don’t value our neighbors from Central America and Mexico as people. Rather, you need these people as Plantation owners needed slaves to tend the fields.
Let them in.
But keep them away from my neighborhood unless they are mowing my lawn or cleaning my toilet.
/ Liberals
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:18 am to ClientNumber9
quote:I'd say agriculture and any business dependent on short term labor during busy seasons (mainly warehousing and lawn maintenance / snow removal) definitely has a set market based on the workforce of legal / illegal immigrants.
The market isn't set by those who aren't legally allowed to be in the workforce.
I've seen it first hand in the warehousing side of it - Americans simply don't want to pick/pack/put-away/cycle count. Temp agencies keep businesses with busy seasons alive to survive year in and year out - I've had to hire hundreds over the years. I can't hire them permanently though...no chance their SSN would pass. Most of the time it's not even their real name. And more importantly - they'd turn it down and go to the next job opening.
Glad I got out of that, too stressful
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 6:24 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:20 am to Covingtontiger77
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Cry me a river you liberal scum about your worrying about the plight of these illegals and that you just want to give them a fair chance at the American dream. bullshite
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:24 am to dewster
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he based his entire business on illegal labor
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:31 am to Covingtontiger77
What happened to prison labor?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 6:34 am to johnnyrocket
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What happened to prison labor?
ACLU determined it was inhumane to make prisoners work and they found some liberal judge to agree with them.
That's an opinion based on a probable fact.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 8:20 am to MississippiLSUfan
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Cry me a rio grande. Start a viable business that doesn’t depend on slave wages to survive.
This. frick those guys. We pay better than average across the board at all positions. Even our summer help, highschool kids filing and shite, make $11/hr. We pay one hundred percent of our employees health insurance and provide retirement and profit sharing plans. Not to mention that we don't charge them or their families for healthcare we provide. But since I'm republican and support Trump and am anti illegal immigration...I'm the a-hole.
That's what pisses me off. Around here it's oil producers using illegals. Pay cash, no benefits, put them up I shitty little houses for "free", used cars that they then get them to fix up, just like the houses for the right to use them or live there and act like they're all generous and shite. No insurance, and we they get fricked up and injured, NO COMP. To the ER and on the taxpayers dime. And these are guys worth tens to hundreds of millions$. And then to hear how good they are to their workers and all they provide?!!!!!
Sometimes I wish I had the audacity and lack of morals and ethics to be so generous. Money is waaaaay easier to make if you lack those traits. Rant over....for now.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 9:25 am to Covingtontiger77
Too bad everyone else is employed in California
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:52 am to Fat Bastard
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cut back on food stamps and other handouts that kill drive and initiative and pay a better wage and maybe americans would do the job
Hunger is a great motivator.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 10:58 am to TJGator1215
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Wait? You guys won't pick crops unless it's for more than the market dictates the skill is worth? You sound like McDonalds workers.
Actually it was the farmer who didnt want to pay the necessary wage.
If a contractor uses an illegal to lay ceramic tile and pays him in cash $8 an hour, but then the illegal gets deported and the contractor cannot find another illegal to do the work that has to be done, what will the contractor do? He will find someone else to do the work and pay what he has to to get the job completed. If the contractor didnt allow money in the job bid to account for this type of situation it comes out of his pocket.
Very similar to the same contractor who bids on a contract and quotes $25 a sheet for plywood, but then a hurricane hits and plywood prices increase to $32 a sheet. What do you think will happen?
The market will dictate what wages are to be.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:22 pm to Covingtontiger77
Invent an avacado picking machine.
Profit
Profit
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:38 pm to ClientNumber9
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Americans would pick avocados and other fruits and vegetables for $20 an hour.
with less production per hour
Yesterday was pay day for my employees. Can I share my American worker story with everyone?
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:57 pm to navy
quote:I read stuff on this board everyday makes me want to give up on this planet. I think this might be the post that finally did it.
I hate avocados anyway
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:14 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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I dunno, he could always pay a decent wage to get Americans to show up.
If his portrayal is accurate you are hired on at min wage and quickly escalate FAR beyond that. Who knows the truth of his statement but if his 200-300 a day for a reliable worker and the best are 400 a day we are talking 2x, 3x and 4x minimum wage there based on a 10 hour day.
The answer might be that we as a country aren’t willing to pay what it costs to buy avacado.... unfortunately our system is so all over the place with farm subsidies and policies that it’s hard for joe citizen to gauge what true cost and willing spend would be for our food supply.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:15 pm to ClientNumber9
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Americans would pick avocados and other fruits and vegetables for $20 an hour
If his portrayal is correct, his experienced workers are making nearly double that
Posted on 6/16/18 at 1:35 pm to northshorebamaman
Who the hell hates guacamole?
I don't care for it. Don't like rutabagas either.
Posted on 6/16/18 at 3:54 pm to Covingtontiger77
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Cry me a river you liberal scum about your worrying about the plight of these illegals and that you just want to give them a fair chance at the American dream. bullshite
Those avocados ain't gonna pick themselves
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