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re: By streamlining the passport process, Trump put a nail in the voter ID argument coffin

Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:04 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:04 am to
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What about non-cell phone owners?



Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14514 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:08 am to
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I find it humorous that the assumption is that everyone has 165 of free cash to spend on a passport.
Hold on to your seat, because I'm about to say something crazy.

In 2026, if someone doesn't have the wherewithal to procure an ID for themselves, they shouldn't get a say in the country's political direction. We SHOULDN'T want those people voting.
This post was edited on 9/30/26 at 8:09 am
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
9828 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:12 am to
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Trump put a nail in the voter ID argument coffin

that assumes a good faith argument, which you will never, ever get from the left.

they will NEVER just say "ok you've demonstrated that it's actually quite simple and free to get an ID, so now everyone can vote easily with an ID" because we arent having the same argument. that was never the thing they actually cared about. they want loose accountabilty so they can manufacture votes from unclear sources. by tying one vote = one ID, they cant do that as easily.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5531 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:13 am to
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I find it humorous that the assumption is that everyone has 165 of free cash to spend on a passport. I’m sure the same side railing against publicly funded libraries would also assume everyone has the internet and a smartphone too


I find it humorous that every Leftist has the assumption that every minority is somehow dumber than they are and can't think or operate by themselves without Government intervention.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15385 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:21 am to
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In 2026, if someone doesn't have the wherewithal to procure an ID for themselves, they shouldn't get a say in the country's political direction. We SHOULDN'T want those people voting.


Of course not. Neither the country nor this form of government was designed for everyone to vote. Not crazy, that's just a fact.

That's not really the problem with the SAVE Act, though. I know it's what the Democrats whine about all the time, but that's just because it's a variation on a narrative they've used for fifty-plus years.

The problem with the SAVE Act isn't getting an ID, it's registering to vote. Because your usual forms of registration—birth certificate is the biggest problem—have to be verified before you can register.

That's not something you can do. That's something your county records department has to do. And by all estimations, they're not going to be able to keep up with all the requests, especially the departments that haven't kept up with digitizing the back records. For example, I was born in 1970. My country records department may have my birth certificate still on paper, or on microfilm. So someone has to wander through filing cabinets or a microfilm vault to find it rather than just putting my date of birth in a computer. And this is most likely to occur in smaller or more rural areas where people are more likely to vote Republican.

The bill also contains stipulations that would give blue states an easy way to discriminate against likely Republican voters.

There could be lots of unintended consequences if it passes.

Bottom line, it's going to be very difficult to beat the house. The Constitution gives states too much authority to control voting for anything like the SAVE Act to really do a whole lot of good. Again, the original idea when those things were put down in the Constitution was that states would be the power centers, not the federal government.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
60626 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 9:58 am to
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I find it humorous that the assumption is that everyone has 165 of free cash to spend on a passport.


70%-85% of those in the poverty (~$16k or less per year for an individual) are on some form of government assistance and all of those benefit packages require some form of government ID.

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I’m sure the same side railing against publicly funded libraries would also assume everyone has the internet and a smartphone too


You mean like this?

Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
29606 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 10:18 am to
Whatever it is I'm sure you will find a way to bitch about it. It could take 5 days and you would bitch that it didn't take only 4 days
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
17301 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 10:34 am to
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Any details on when it goes live and how long it takes to get one mailed to you?


I just renewed an expired passport and it took a week. Non-expeditied, normal processing.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2830 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 1:24 pm to
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believe i have to renew mine in person as it expired last year but maybe i'm wrong, often am
I think you have a few years.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9532 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 1:30 pm to
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I find it humorous that the assumption is that everyone has 165 of free cash to spend on a passport. I’m sure the same side railing against publicly funded libraries would also assume everyone has the internet and a smartphone too


Over 99% of Adult US Citizens have an ID. There is no excuse for anyone that wants to vote to not have an ID. They have chosen not to.

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