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re: Buying a house in proposed St. George
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:44 am to BugAC
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:44 am to BugAC
quote:That train left the station a long time ago. Now my goal is to show how ignorant most SG supporters are. It's working, too.
You are sure to sway minds towards your viewpoint.
quote:Not all are but some SG supporters are definitely racist. They've admitted it in posts on this board which I have linked to several times. Which category are you in?
Tell me, do you still believe us St. Georgians are racist, and that's why we want our own school district?
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:44 am to Asgard Device
quote:St. George isn't scorching the earth. It does not exist, so it can't. The scorched earth campaign is the one to keep an independent school district from happening. Parents wanting decent public schools for their children has caused those with political power to react to protect and preserve their power.
The scorched earth "us vs. them" strategy used to create a city has all but guaranteed that an ISD will never happen.
First it was the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board who cut them off to prevent losing political power. So the concerned parents went over their heads to the state government. The state government didn't want to get involved in a local dispute and kicked it back telling the concerned parents to incorporate first. When the concerned parents organized to try and incorporate the Metro Council swung into action to prevent its political power being diminished.
The scorched earth campaign has been conducted by petty politicians seeking to preserve their power, but their ultimate goal has been to keep children in crappy schools. Those who have participated in, and supported, those campaigns should be proud of themselves.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:49 am to doubleb
quote:It was YOU who left off important facts which I pointed out to you and then YOU never responded to those facts.
It started when he compared the SG proposed budget with that of other cities and he "forgot" to mention that city budgets aren't all the same and some cities provide services other cities no not provide.
quote:No, you lost.
I think I got that point across, so I guess I won, right?
quote:I never said she has the authority to change the ballot deadline. I linked to her statement that she needed a certain amount of time to certify the signatures before she can submit the certification to the Sec of State's office and the time she needed to start on that certification process has already passed. You really are pitifully desperate.
After all he quickly diverted the discussion to whether or not Ms. Lamb had the authority to create a new deadline to get the petition on the ballot,
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:49 am to LSURussian
quote:
They've admitted it in posts on this board which I have linked to several times
link?
quote:
Not all are but some SG supporters are definitely racist
Do you state the same thing about the together Baton Rouge effort? After all, y'all were the ones that injected race into the issue in the first place. Shows where your heart really lies on the issue.
quote:
Which category are you in?
The one that doesn't post asinine arguments with no substance and try to insert race into every category just to try to project a negative onto an issue i'm losing.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:52 am to Poodlebrain
quote:
The scorched earth campaign has been conducted by petty politicians seeking to preserve their power, but their ultimate goal has been to keep children in crappy schools. Those who have participated in, and supported, those campaigns should be proud of themselves.
Excellent post sir, hammer meet nail.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:55 am to BugAC
quote:You can search my posts. I'm not going to do it again just for you.
They've admitted it in posts on this board which I have linked to several times
link?
quote:Yes, some Together Baton Rouge people are definitely racist. I can admit that. Why can't you admit that some SG supporters motives are driven by racism?
Do you state the same thing about the together Baton Rouge effort?
quote:YOU are the poster, not me, who inserted the racism issue into this thread. Does that mean you did it because you know you're losing? Or is it because you're a racist? Which is it?
and try to insert race into every category just to try to project a negative onto an issue i'm losing.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:02 am to LSURussian
quote:
You can search my posts. I'm not going to do it again just for you.
Translation: It never happened
quote:
Yes, some Together Baton Rouge people are definitely racist. I can admit that. Why can't you admit that some SG supporters motives are driven by racism?
I'm not the one trying to bring race into an issue, and state that issues exist solely on race. If you want to race bait to try and sway others, knock yourself out. It's a cheap trick for the losing side.
quote:
YOU are the poster, not me, who inserted the racism issue into this thread.
If by inserting racism, you mean calling out one of your ignorant early posts on the St. George issue where you stated this issue was based on race, then i guess i'm guilty. quote:
Does that mean you did it because you know you're losing? Or is it because you're a racist? Which is it?
Here's another gem from you, from last year.
LINK
quote:
I'm not in the St. George area but if it is allowed to separate, the remaining part of BR will be about 70% black.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:12 am to Poodlebrain
quote:
First it was the East Baton Rouge Parish School Board who cut them off to prevent losing political power.
As much as the school boards doesn't want to lose power, the St. George leaders want to gain it. That is a two-sided coin.
There has never been a real attempt, by either side, to find a compromise.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:15 am to BugAC
quote:You did it in this thread. Case closed.
I'm not the one trying to bring race into an issue
quote:Yes, you are.
i'm guilty.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:16 am to BigJim
quote:Agreed on both points.
As much as the school boards doesn't want to lose power, the St. George leaders want to gain it. That is a two-sided coin.
There has never been a real attempt, by either side, to find a compromise.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:20 am to BigJim
quote:You are correct, and I'm more than willing to admit that the initial effort to improve schools has been corrupted by those with a different agenda. The financiers of the incorporation effort have a larger agenda than just improving schools. They seek the power to control public spending in the proposed new community. And I've no doubt they intend to be self-serving if they obtain control of public spending. But that would hardly be any different than the self-serving that is unfortunately all to common among Louisiana public officials.
As much as the school boards doesn't want to lose power, the St. George leaders want to gain it. That is a two-sided coin.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:24 am to BugAC
quote:
Here's another gem from you, from last year.
Here's one from this year:
quote:
I will get to vote if the petition is certified.
LINK
He says he doesn't live in SG, and then he infers he does live in SG by telling us he will get a vote if the petition is approved.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:26 am to doubleb
quote:Are you so dumb you can't figure out what I mean? Do you think it's impossible for a voter to change addresses? Think, old man.....THINK!!!
He says he doesn't live in SG, and then he infers he does live in SG by telling us he will get a vote if the petition is approved.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:30 am to BugAC
quote:
Here's another gem from you, from last year.
LINK
RUSSIAN SAID:
I'm not in the St. George area but if it is allowed to separate, the remaining part of BR will be about 70% black.
What is interesting about that quote is that it Russian was replying to the following question:
quote:
I live in the proposed new area, but I haven't signed the petition. Nevertheless, I'm genuinely trying to find legitimate reasons why the new city isn't a good idea
...and he has the nerve to call others racist.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:31 am to BigJim
quote:
There has never been a real attempt, by either side, to find a compromise.
For decades now the EBR Parish School Board has made genuine attempts to "fix" the schools in this parish.
The results are what we have today.
I wouldn't say their attempts have been compromises, but they have made changes to keep more families involved and in public schools and they did get the Feds out of the process.
But Jim, it hasn't worked. We see discipline expose's on local TV and in local newspapers. We see test scores really not improving much if at all. We se the state taking over more schools and then we all have anecdotal evidence of people we know who tell us stories about what goes on in public schools on a regular basis.
Recently; however, BRAC floated a couple of compromises that went nowhere. That was a late attempt to head off the SG movement. The powers that be wouldn't hear of splitting the parish into districts.
So what is there left to do except follow Zachary and Central's lead and starting a new ISD.
Believe me, I'm open. If given a choice I'd take an ISD and let parish govt. remain as is. But that isn't the choice that I see we have.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:33 am to LSURussian
quote:
Are you so dumb you can't figure out what I mean? Do you think it's impossible for a voter to change addresses? Think, old man.....THINK!!!
LOL
You're so hung up on this you'd move to SG to vote against SG!!!!!!!!!!
Touche'
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:34 am to doubleb
quote:You're STILL not thinking. But that's not surprising after reading your posts for months.....
you'd move to SG to vote against SG!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:36 am to LSURussian
quote:
You're STILL not thinking. But that's not surprising after reading your posts for months.....
You would still have to "move" on paper. LOL
Go for it. One vote might make a difference.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:46 am to LSURussian
Where's Sprockets? Maybe bringing the petition to Ms. Lamb??
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:48 am to doubleb
1. The City of St George WILL be created whether in 2015 (after a 2014 vote) or at some point in the next two years. It will eventually be on the ballot and it will pass by a large margin. The city's lawsuits MAY delay it some but will not stop it.
2. The real debatable question is the creation of a new school district. I was told by an attorney that works for the state that the Legislature can authorize a school district without a parishwide vote. He said this is an unclear situation but no city that has requested a school district has been denied in recent years. This will be interesting as it works its way forward after SG becomes incorporated.
2. The real debatable question is the creation of a new school district. I was told by an attorney that works for the state that the Legislature can authorize a school district without a parishwide vote. He said this is an unclear situation but no city that has requested a school district has been denied in recent years. This will be interesting as it works its way forward after SG becomes incorporated.
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