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Posted on 12/30/25 at 7:52 am to Bunk Moreland
I bet if you overlap the post-Covid violent crime spike with this chart you'll see a concurrence of pathologies temporally.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 7:53 am to stout
People keep confusing these people as high end fisherman getting such catches as grouper or snapper, they are more like bottom feeders as their prey
Posted on 12/30/25 at 7:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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The inflection point seems to be in 2023-2024
The downtrend in OD deaths began in 2022, really showing up in mid-2023 and correlates with increased seizures at the border and a decrease in purity in both powder and pill form fentanyl. Stout ignored, or was incapable of understanding graphs, the last thread like this he started.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 8:00 am
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:00 am to Bunk Moreland
A LOT of things are “wild” to you like common sense, drug use, immigration, Iran’s nuclear program, paying taxes, Palestinians attacking Israel, Epstein conspiracies, Russian election interference, election fraud, etc. the common denominator in all of this is you boy wonder
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:00 am to stout
All we needed was a new president.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:00 am to LegendInMyMind
I imagine the post-Covid society has a lot to do with the spike as well.
shite went off the rails for a few years starting 3Q 2020 until about 2Q 2023, generally.
shite went off the rails for a few years starting 3Q 2020 until about 2Q 2023, generally.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:01 am to The Torch
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All we needed was a new president.
Like the Minnesota Somali fraud prosecutions, this trend started under Biden
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:01 am to stout
Yeah people still overdose on other drugs. People that think fentanyl is the only problem are just tds riddled loons.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:02 am to stout
I doubted the data since the source wasn’t visible (Joinpain is a tool not a source) so I researched it. It appears to be in line with this from the CDC
CDC Raw Data
The data in that graph are from September 2025 but are probably only valid through May 2025 due to delays in States reporting. Still, the precipitous drop starting about when Trump took over to June 2025 is in line with the rest of the graph.
The decline began well before the Venezuela interdictions, so that has nothing to do with the graph. My wild guess is that the dropoff is due to shutting down the border and harassing the Venezuelan gangs that had taken up residency in the US.
CDC Raw Data
The data in that graph are from September 2025 but are probably only valid through May 2025 due to delays in States reporting. Still, the precipitous drop starting about when Trump took over to June 2025 is in line with the rest of the graph.
The decline began well before the Venezuela interdictions, so that has nothing to do with the graph. My wild guess is that the dropoff is due to shutting down the border and harassing the Venezuelan gangs that had taken up residency in the US.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:04 am to Penrod
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My wild guess is that the dropoff is due to shutting down the border
Well, yeah......that is where the overwhelming majority of fentanyl seizures occur. The high water mark there for seizures was in 2023.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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I bet if you overlap the post-Covid violent crime spike with this chart you'll see a concurrence of pathologies temporally.
You could overlap Biden immigration with the increase of these things too.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:05 am to stout
You should realize that it gets trafficked there from other countries south of Venezuela.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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All we needed was a new president.
Like the Minnesota Somali fraud prosecutions, this trend started under Biden
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:08 am to stout
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d 2024 before we were blowing boats up but restricting the supply will accelerate it
Lol.. we’ve been blowing up central and s. American drug boats for years. Ask any Navy vet worth a crap. It’s only a thing to criticize now because .. Blumpf!
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:35 am to stout
What exactly does this have to do with the Epstein files?
Gosh people, you need to prioritize and focus!
Gosh people, you need to prioritize and focus!
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:35 am to stout
Do y'all know how to read this graph? 
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:38 am to Tigergreg
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You should realize that it gets trafficked there from other countries south of Venezuela.
Guess you’re ignorant to the fact Trump has called out Columbia and their president. They will get hit too if they continue.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:40 am to stout
But what about the price of FISH!!!
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