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re: Bret Baier is humiliating Tommy Vietor on Fox right now regarding Benghazi
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:43 pm to Decatur
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:43 pm to Decatur
The video was fed to them by the state Dept, to cover their butt in Cairo, for the Blind Sheik protests. ie. we fed the media the internet video. We've been through this.. 
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:46 pm to CamdenTiger
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The video was fed to them by the state Dept, to cover their butt in Cairo, for the Blind Sheik protests. ie. we fed the media the internet video. We've been through this..
And I'm pretty sure you are wrong about this State Dept video conspiracy theory. Anger over the video was real, and it predated 9/11/12. State Department did not put the video out there.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:55 pm to Decatur
Thanks for that reply, but who told Rice to mention the video? The CIA didn't.
Also, Vietor said he, among others, prepped Rice before she did those interviews. So, wouldn't you think that they were the ones that told her to mention the video?
Also, Vietor said he, among others, prepped Rice before she did those interviews. So, wouldn't you think that they were the ones that told her to mention the video?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:00 pm to Decatur
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Decatur
I bet you don't eat chocolate either.
But thanks for giving us the DU talking points for the evening and tomorrow.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:01 pm to Decatur
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State Department did not put the video out there.
The American Embassy did not put the video out there,. but they repeatedly, PRIOR TO THE THE FIRST DEMONSTRATORS ARRIVING AT THE EMBASSY, issued tweets apologizing for it and calling the attention of everyone in Cairo that it was out there. Only a relatively small number of Egyptians had seen the video clip prior to the 11th and there was no widespread angry response to it. If there had been, the demonstrations would have begun on Saturday, not late in the afternoon on Tuesday while an Al Qaeda-organized demonstration was already taking place. They fueled the fire to make it appear that the demonstrations they knew that were going to take place later that day were attributable to a video and not to the Muslim Brotherhood government turning its back on an Al Qaeda sanctioned Sept. 11th anti-American protest which they had feared might result in violence. After the Clinton visit 7 weeks earlier and the American Ambassador's cuddling up to Mursi, the administration would have looked very bad on the political front. Giving more publicity to the video in a few hours than it had received in 3 days made the American media completely ignore the Al Qaeda demonstration throughout the day on news broadcasts and focus only on the follow-up video demonstrators. They were patting themselves on the back until Benghazi unexpectedly blew up on them, and Clinton made the decision, while the activities at the annex were still going on, to carry over the video as the reason for the attack.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:01 pm to stuntman
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Thanks for that reply, but who told Rice to mention the video? The CIA didn't.
Also, Vietor said he, among others, prepped Rice before she did those interviews. So, wouldn't you think that they were the ones that told her to mention the video?
I don't see any problem with mentioning the video. It was implicated in the intelligence that was reviewed, such as the public statements made by Libyan officials, Ansar al-Sharia, AQAP et al. Everyone was talking about the video at the time.
CIA analysts may have had doubts as to exact motivations, I'm pretty sure they saw the different groups involved as possibly having divergent motivations. What they did agree on, was the attackers went forward after watching the Cairo protests (which seems to have involved many different groups) on TV. And that was what was reflected in the talking points provided.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:02 pm to Decatur
you should give serious consideration to a career in porn. Your ability to deepthroat Obama is unparalleled.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:03 pm to Decatur
Everybody at every level that actually believed the video had anything to do with the Benghazi attack needs to be fired for being an absolute dumbass.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:10 pm to NHTIGER
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but they repeatedly, PRIOR TO THE THE FIRST DEMONSTRATORS ARRIVING AT THE EMBASSY, issued tweets apologizing for it and calling the attention of everyone in Cairo that it was out there.
I'm pretty sure they were given a heads up prior to that day and that's why all the embassy employees left before it happened (or just didn't show up for work that day). It was well-known those protests included a big element protesting over the video.
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Only a relatively small number of Egyptians had seen the video clip prior to the 11th and there was no widespread angry response to it. If there had been, the demonstrations would have begun on Saturday, not late in the afternoon on Tuesday while an Al Qaeda-organized demonstration was already taking place.
Dunno about all of this. The demonstrations against the video were planned for that day.
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The independent daily Al Youm al Sabaa picked up the story and published a three-paragraph article on September 6 calling the film “shocking” and warning it could fuel sectarian tensions between Coptic Christians and Muslims in Egypt. An Islamic web forum soon carried the story, as did other newspapers, yet it remained off the front pages.
It wasn’t until September 9 that the story began to gain traction, when TV host Khaled Abdullah—known for his inflammatory rants against Christians, liberals and secularists—played a clip of the video on his show on El-Nas, a private religious satellite channel. Abdullah and his co-host railed against the film and accused expatriate Copts of wanting to “inflame Egypt.” The Coptic Church issued a statement disavowing the video, as did a number of expatriate Coptic groups.
The film quickly caught the attention of other ultraconservative Islamists in what became an echo chamber of calls to protest. Wesam Abdel Warith, the head of the Salafi television station al-Hekma and one of the principal protest organizers within the Salafi coalition, called for a demonstration to be held outside the US embassy on Tuesday, September 11, after hearing that extremist Florida pastor Terry Jones had planned to put the Prophet Muhammed on mock trial that day and sentence him to death.
In an interview with Al Jazeera English, Warith defended choosing to hold the protest outside the US embassy. “We are fully aware that the US administration is not responsible for the actions of individuals, but this was a message because we know as individuals we have no power to stop this absurdity,” he said.
The chorus of calls to protest continued to grow. Nader Bakkar, the spokesman for the Nour Party, the largest of Egypt’s three licensed Salafi parties, said the protest was necessary as a religious duty to defend the prophet.
“Islamists tried to capitalize on this event for their own political gains,” says Khalil al-Anani, a scholar in Middle East politics at Durham University. “But it started getting out of control. It’s a very risky game.”
By mid-afternoon on Tuesday, protesters started gathering in front of the embassy, chanting slogans for the prophet and against the United States. A few thousand eventually turned up and were joined by a small group of Copts as well as Ultras, the soccer fans who have long been at the forefront of protests against security forces in Egypt. Police did nothing to prevent a number of protesters from scaling the 12-foot outer wall of the compound and bringing down the American flag, which had been flying at half mast to mark the anniversary of 9/11, eventually burning it and replacing it with an Islamic one.
Maybe not all Egyptians had heard about the video but many did.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:13 pm to Decatur
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I thought it was a good interview. Vietor made good points
I normally don't call people out on this board but you are a fricking hack/joke, pick the one you are more comfortable with.
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