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re: Breonna Taylor: it was not a no knock warrant

Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38375 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:52 pm to
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statistics that back up BLM claims.
I literally have no idea what you are talking about. You seem obsessed with BLM, though.

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this coming from a person who says that being a police officer isn't really "dangerous" and that we need to define dangerous.
This coming from a person who claims to care about facts - yet is happy to just use an adjective without putting any factual parameters on it.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:53 pm to
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You’re just playing a game. That’s fine
so you won't answer the question. that's all you had to say

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Don’t pretend you’re seeking truth
I'M the one who asked for all the facts, like in a trial, and am trying to talk people off the ledge of "police barge in and start gunning innocent people down." you're better than that
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:54 pm to
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the war on drugs is stupid and leads to negative outcomes just like this
idiotic

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the BF actively exercised his 2nd Amendment rights when his home was invaded
debatable and not based on evidence

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the police behaved poorly in the aftermath
even if they did, that's a TOTALLY different matter and you're conflating the two
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125263 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:55 pm to
No one in this thread is saying police barged in and starting gunning innocent people down. I missed your initial question. I’ll go back and look. But you won’t listen to the 911 call. Probably because you’re hardheaded. It’s all good.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:55 pm to
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He cares about waiting for all the facts to come out - just so long as those facts perfectly dovetail with his confirmation bias that the police can do no wrong
and here is the standard ad hominem when people are met with an intellectual barrier. i'm glad you're a mind reader.

i have never, not once ever, said the police are above reproach. i know they make mistakes.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 5:57 pm
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52839 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:56 pm to
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per every single witness who was not wearing a badge.


Hands up dont shoot
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125263 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:57 pm to
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with evidence or feelings?


No one disputes that they knocked down the door before Kenneth Walker shot. You created that wholly in your own mind. I’ll assume it was based on your feelings.

ETA: if this is the question you were waiting to be answered, you have really moved into full-on troll mode.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38375 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:59 pm to
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idiotic
Excellent fact-and-evidence-based commentary. Incisive. Comprehensive.

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debatable and not based on evidence
He had a licensed firearm, he shot and there are no charges pending against him. What exactly is your evidence of any contrary claim?

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even if they did, that's a TOTALLY different matter and you're conflating the two
Totally different THAN WHAT? Seriously, WTF are you talking about?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34886 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:01 pm to
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No one in this thread is saying police barged in and starting gunning innocent people down. I missed your initial question. I’ll go back and look. But you won’t listen to the 911 call. Probably because you’re hardheaded. It’s all good.


Curious what specifically is in the 911 call you find compelling?
One thing I found strange was that the cops didn’t seem to be on the scene. You’d think they would have had him subdued and at least be heard in the background. It’s also interesting he doesn’t say anything about the police being there or seem concerned the supposed intruder would find him.
Weird.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:01 pm to
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I literally have no idea what you are talking about
your laughable performance in this thread

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You seem obsessed with BLM, though
nope

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yet is happy to just use an adjective without putting any factual parameters on it
you think we need "facts" to prove it's dangerous being a police officer. my word. have you EVER talked to police officers about this? have you ever gone on ride alongs in certain neighborhoods? let me back up - have you even watched an episode of cops or livepd? why don't you just start there.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125263 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:02 pm to
It seems that there’s two options:

1) he’s a helluva actor
2) he doesn’t know police are the ones who broke down his door
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:03 pm to
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No one in this thread is saying police barged in and starting gunning innocent people down
that is PRECISELY what people are saying. the police may or may not have knocked. then broke the door down and started shooting. that is exactly what is being said. because if it weren't, this thread wouldn't even exist. no one would be questioning the actions one bit.

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But you won’t listen to the 911 call
says who?

the question was about your evidence for disputing that he shot through the door. multiple people are saying he did.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125263 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:04 pm to
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that is PRECISELY what people are saying.


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No one in this thread is saying police barged in and starting gunning innocent people down


Link?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:04 pm to
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No one disputes that they knocked down the door before Kenneth Walker shot
not true.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125263 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:04 pm to
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the question was about your evidence for disputing that he shot through the door. multiple people are saying he did.


Link?
(I’m betting on a police forum)
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38375 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:05 pm to
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your laughable performance in this thread
wut

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nope
yep

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you think we need "facts" to prove it's dangerous being a police officer. my word. have you EVER talked to police officers about this? have you ever gone on ride alongs in certain neighborhoods? let me back up - have you even watched an episode of cops or livepd? why don't you just start there.
Yes, we always need facts. Particularly in cases where it just seems so "obvious".
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:07 pm to
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Excellent fact-and-evidence-based commentary. Incisive. Comprehensive
i responded to this in the other thread. and the fact that every pd in the country is involved in this "war" shows that you're on the wrong side. i gave you an assignment to get educated. did you?

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He had a licensed firearm
irrelevant

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there are no charges pending against him
after the fact, based on multiple political/legal variables. but you knew all that didn't you

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What exactly is your evidence of any contrary claim?
ask the police officers and the ky ag

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Totally different THAN WHAT?
than what happened at the scene at the time according to multiple witnesses, both leo and not.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:08 pm to
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he doesn’t know police are the ones who broke down his door
i never said anything to the contrary
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125263 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:09 pm to
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after the fact, based on multiple political/legal variables. but you knew all that didn't you


Do we say this about every legal decision we disagree with?

Isn’t that what BLM is saying about no charges related to Breonna’s death?

What’s the difference between their claims and yours?
Posted by CredulousChowder
Boone, NC
Member since Sep 2020
161 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:10 pm to
As usual you are an ignorant douche.
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