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re: Breonna Taylor: it was not a no knock warrant

Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:10 pm to
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but I don't think doubting an otherwise apparently honest and respected official like the AG is a good look.
Now apply that logic to the Rittenhouse charges.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:13 pm to
I fell for the no-knock lie. It's rare for me to fall for fake news, but I fell for this one. Now I'm the piece of shite who spread fake news as if it was fact, to my friends and family.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:14 pm to
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After the passage of six months and God alone knows how many interviews and how much pressure, the cops managed to find ONE witness willing to change his story and confirm the cops' claims that they announced themselves.

Truly impressive.


So your stance is that that Uncle Tom AG is covering for the white devils?

Truly impressive
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:16 pm to
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And do you really believe that cops should be able to bust into your house for a non violent offense?
I have a hard time with this, but that’s an issue for legislators. Cops don’t write the law.
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:19 pm to
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I’m not buying that 12 witnesses initially said the cops didn’t announce themselves and then after meeting with one witness three separate times, that one witness changed his/her story to say the cops did announce themselves.
Where is this information coming from?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:19 pm to
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Now apply that logic to the Rittenhouse charges.


Thankfully Rittenhouse has tons of video to use to protect himself from vindictive people like you.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125254 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:20 pm to
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drug lord boyfriend


Her boyfriend has no record and is not suspected of being involved in drugs.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34886 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:21 pm to
Even the shooter said they knocked. How is this still even a point of controversy?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38373 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:21 pm to
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Thankfully Rittenhouse has tons of video to use to protect himself from vindictive people like you.
wut

I was pointing out it's silly to rely on AGs to be honest, particularly in these times. Rittenhouse is already a direct victim of such bad actors.

So GFY you low-information-voting POS.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 5:30 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125254 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:22 pm to
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Even the shooter said they knocked. How is this still even a point of controversy?


Probably the “announce” part of “knock and announce.”

YouTube of 911 Call from Kenneth Walker, Taylor’s Boyfriend
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:26 pm to
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After the passage of six months and God alone knows how many interviews and how much pressure, the cops managed to find ONE witness willing to change his story and confirm the cops' claims that they announced themselves.
You seem to be creating this. Do you have something stating that someone changed their initial statement?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:28 pm to
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This tale gets taller with every repetition
so you're disputing that a police officer was shot through the door after announcing his presence. where is your evidence that trumps what the ky ag is saying? why don't you lay out the sequence of events that led to her being shot to death. how exactly did it go down?

quote:

After the passage of six months and God alone knows how many interviews and how much pressure, the cops managed to find ONE witness willing to change his story and confirm the cops' claims that they announced themselves
these histrionics are hank speak for "i was wrong." why can't you just say you were wrong.

and the address has NOTHING to do with the case so there's no reason for you to try to distract with that nonsense.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125254 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:30 pm to
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so you're disputing that a police officer was shot through the door after announcing his presence.


I’m disputing that. They broke down the door before Walker shot.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34886 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:33 pm to
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In his interview, Mattingly insists officers knocked and announced themselves when they arrived after midnight on March 13. In Walker’s interview with investigators, however, he says there was banging on the door but the couple never heard anyone say “police.” Walker says that after he and Taylor asked who it was and got no response he reached for his licensed firearm.


LINK
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
125927 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:35 pm to
From the CNN report on July 23rd;
quote:

'We kept banging'

Hours after Shaw signed the warrants, police began the operation, conducting near-simultaneous raids at the various locations.

Taylor's apartment, according to police, was considered a less volatile, "soft target." As such, police commanders decided in advance to have officers knock and announce their presence before entry. That decision was communicated in a pre-operational briefing, according to a source familiar with the details of the operation who requested anonymity due to the ongoing investigation.

Sometime after 12:30 a.m., Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly began pounding on the door. He later told investigators he believed Taylor was alone and he wanted to give her sufficient time to answer.

As officers waited for a response, a neighbor poked his head out to ask what was going on. One of the officers, Brett Hankison, extended his gun and told the neighbor to get back inside his apartment, Mattingly would later tell investigators.

"Brett was a little bit worked up," Mattingly said. "I remember looking at Brett, saying, 'Brett, relax. Brett, just relax. Relax."

When there was no answer after repeated knocks, Mattingly said, he announced he was a police officer there to serve a search warrant.

"Police. Come to the door," he said.

Another officer on the search team said he heard movement inside and thought someone was about to answer the door.

"We kept banging and announcing," Mattingly said, but still no one answered.

Eventually, a lieutenant at the scene gave the order to "go ahead and hit" the door with the battering ram, Mattingly said.

'Who is it?'

Taylor had been watching a movie in bed together with her boyfriend Kenneth Walker when she drifted off to sleep beside him. Walker told investigators he heard banging at the door after midnight and his first thought was that it was Glover. He said he knew Taylor had dated the accused drug dealer during their on-and-off seven-year relationship. He was concerned there might be trouble.

Taylor, who had awoken, shouted, "Who is it"?

Walker said there was no response.

He said he and Taylor scrambled to get dressed and that he grabbed his gun, which his attorney said he legally owns.

The pounding at the door continued, he said.

"She's yelling at the top of her lungs — and I am too at this point — who is it?" he recalled. "No answer. No response. No anything."

As they made their way down a hallway toward the front door, Walker said, the door flew off its hinges.

"So I just let off one shot," he said. "I still can't see who it is or anything."

Following orders and police procedure

Mattingly was first through the door.

He could make out a man and a woman in the darkened hallway, he said, and the man had a gun in his hand.

"I remember seeing the barrel," Mattingly said.

Then, in an instant, he saw the flash of the muzzle and felt the heat of a bullet in his leg. The round had severed his femoral artery.

Mattingly returned fire, squeezing off multiple shots in rapid succession.

"Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom," he recalled. In all, he said he fired six times.

He remembered falling to the ground and being helped to safety outside the apartment before hearing fellow officers return fire.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:36 pm to
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I’m disputing that
with evidence or feelings?

quote:

They broke down the door before Walker shot
even if you're right, that still doesn't necessarily mean the police acted incorrectly. it raises the possibility but doesn't prove anything.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19257 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:37 pm to
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It is certainly indicative of their willingness to lie in order to get what they wanted from the judge. If they were willing to lie (under oath) to a judge, what else are they laying about?


This is the question that needs to be asked to Comey, Brennan, Peter, Lisa and the gang on the muh Russia hoax.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:37 pm to
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after he and Taylor asked who it was and got no response
yeah right
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125254 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:38 pm to
Yeah. Did you listen to Walker’s 911 call?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125254 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:39 pm to
I’m not sure incorrect is the right word.

It’s all a tragedy. I don’t think the police did anything wrong (I’m also not sure they announced). I’m not sure Kenneth Walker did anything wrong. Sometimes bad shite happens.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 5:40 pm
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