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re: Brennan Security Clearance Gone
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:58 pm to DallasTiger11
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:58 pm to DallasTiger11
You would have to be living with blinders on are completely ignorant to not see what the dems are trying to do
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:59 pm to 90proofprofessional
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They're going after political enemies, and not even close to everyone guilty of whatever their actual excuse will be. And to loud cheers here, I'll add.
That’s pure spin. You call it going after political enemies, the administration calls it stripping unnecessary clearance from a former staffer who is clearly compromised politically.
He called for a coup de tat for crying out loud.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:00 pm to ProjectP2294
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I'm not really sure why I'm supposed to care about it being targeting either
i'm not going to lose any sleep over it; it's just a nice reflection of our increasingly polarized and petty political climate where outrage mobs cheer on the public destruction of rivals' careers
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:01 pm to Vacherie Saint
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He called for a coup de tat
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:02 pm to 90proofprofessional
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if you had said "don't choose to break the laws/rules about classified materials" i'd agree
TBD on that. Trump knows way more about what all they have done than we do.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:06 pm to narddogg81
And her using her office to peddle information and influence to foreign agents/countries to line the coffers of the Clinton "Foundation".
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:07 pm to 90proofprofessional
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it's just a nice reflection of our increasingly polarized and petty political climate where outrage mobs cheer on the public destruction of rivals' careers
I mean, that's a nice holier than thou statement, but it doesn't really mean shite.
You're trying to play up the "political rivals" thing for people who were in positions that were supposed to be apolitical. If their careers are being destroyed because they are anyone's political rivals, that's their own fault.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:09 pm to Sentrius
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The media about get real pissed that their pipeline of sauces just got shut down.
Just because you have a security clearance it doesn't mean you still have access. You have to have a need to know. No job no legal access even if you still have a clearance.
The best thing is this stops him from getting another job that needs a security clearance. Unless he can get it back.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:10 pm to CarrolltonTiger
When will the Oliver Stone movie be released? I swear that’s what this is becoming. I don’t get why these guys still have any clearance other than to be “leakers” to press outlets.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:11 pm to ProjectP2294
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You're trying to play up the "political rivals" thing for people who were in positions that were supposed to be apolitical. If their careers are being destroyed because they are anyone's political rivals, that's their own fault.
Spot on.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:11 pm to ProjectP2294
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people who were in positions that were supposed to be apolitical
i thought the positions listed were all preceded by "former"
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mean, that's a nice holier than thou statement, but it doesn't really mean shite.
no it doesn't, and that's about all it means to me. that's why i'm not losing sleep over it as i said.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:13 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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Unless he can get it back.
I was thinking about that a minute ago. Imagine the hoops one would have to go thru to get a reinstated clearance after a revocation following a reason like the President personally wanting it revoked.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:14 pm to 90proofprofessional
Can they revoke Mark Warner's security clearance?
Somebody get a mop, Warner's bleeding all over the granite.
Somebody get a mop, Warner's bleeding all over the granite.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:16 pm to 90proofprofessional
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i thought the positions listed were all preceded by "former"
Which is why they shouldn't have it right now in the first place.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:20 pm to ProjectP2294
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Which is why they shouldn't have it right now in the first place.
in that case bolton, should still be on the sidelines waiting on his re-adjudicated clearance before he can become nat sec advisor
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:22 pm to 90proofprofessional
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it is not an argument for targeting political enemies
It takes a staggering level of ignoring public facts to not see what this group has in common vis-a-vis leaking or inappropriately utilizing our nation's secrets.Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:22 pm to 90proofprofessional
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in that case bolton, should still be on the sidelines waiting on his re-adjudicated clearance before he can become nat sec advisor
Fine with me.
ETA: People have been allowed to treat US Security Clearance as a commodity for far too long. Now John Brennan can't. The list of people under review certainly aren't the only ones doing it, but they certainly are all doing it. So stopping them is better than not stopping them.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:27 pm to therick711
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It takes a staggering level of ignoring public facts to not see what this group has in common
not as staggering as the level required to fail to acknowledge that a far larger group of people deserve "review" for this but haven't gotten it and won't
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:28 pm to 90proofprofessional
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as for me i think the real important question is what the next democrat administration will start doing to its political enemies, and what kind of path we're going down
I know. What if they start using the IRS to target their political opponents?
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Or what if they start spying on opposing campaigns for president?
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Imagine if our intelligence apparatus was used to spy on citizens engaging in national political activities in contravention of both the constitution and federal law?
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That would be a pretty rough path to trod down. Hope it never happens in our great Republic. We better be very careful.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:29 pm to ProjectP2294
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Fine with me.
yeah, me too. it never sat well with me that timing your separation could be a little hook-up that made you more likely to get some cush contractor job.
but doing it that way would mean that DOD business would get more expensive and insert all kinds of little personnel-related delays.
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So stopping them is better than not stopping them.
disagree with the rationale. if we're going to stop them for this reason, it needs to be by implementing a policy that would stop everyone from doing it. selective rule application isn't far from simple corruption
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