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re: Breaking: Supreme Court Blocks Trump’s Use of Alien Enemies Act to Deport Illegals

Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:02 pm to
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Garcia had legally been granted withholding of removal in 2019 by a United States immigration court.


This isn't just about him. Nice try though
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:04 pm to
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Keep this same energy when President AOC violates a court order to implement some climate change nonsense because “our country will die without it” and Kentanji Jackson upholds it “because it’s for the good of the country”.


Nowhere near the same. Trump has:

-Laws passed by Congress including Laken Riley Act.

- Article II of the US Constitution.

- And a Demand from the American public.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:06 pm to
Hey, at least you didn’t ChatGPT that one. You’re now debating like a sophomore in high school

You even capitalized “Demand”. It’s the wrong word and nonsensical, but you’re trying.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 5:08 pm
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12403 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:10 pm to
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This isn't just about him. Nice try though


Yeah I was gone for a bit. Was still thinking the thread was an argument over legality of this deportation.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:49 pm to
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Keep this same energy when President AOC violates a court order to implement some climate change nonsense because “our country will die without it” and Kentanji Jackson upholds it “because it’s for the good of the country”.


Doesn't matter if she were to do this or not. All she has to do is let 20 million more illegal aliens in, and there's nothing we can do about it. The country is done. It's toast. Nothing we can do.

It's also very strange that you all keep equating legal citizens and illegal aliens.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:54 pm to
LINK

Page 3 of the .pdf

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It's also very strange that you all keep equating legal citizens and illegal aliens


Both entitled to due process. Seriously, read the link above and ask questions about what is not clear to you. BBONDS is a very esteemed and learned lawyer and he will educate you.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:58 pm to
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Both entitled to due process.


Great. Congrats. You're getting the country you're advocating for. Hopefully they move a lot of illegal aliens to your neighborhood when they gain power again.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:58 pm to
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Why was Biden allowed to completely ignore the Constitution and Congress when he opened the borders?
It was absolutely wrong. Why is the right thing to do now? What changed?
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:59 pm to
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Oh well. I guess we'll just have to watch our country die then. Voting is pointless.
What a defeatist attitude. John Boehner would be proud of you!

I’ve said all along that Trump need congressional action on lots of issues to truly affect change. If only we had an effective speaker, a good working relationship with republicans, and an ability to build coalitions among his detractors.

This thread is a great lesson. Almost everyone agrees deporting illegals is a good and necessary thing. But Trump decided to go about it in an indefensible way, and he loses support—for something obviously good. Second term is starting to look like the first term.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 6:09 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:02 pm to
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But that is what the Constitution and Congress have said the process entails.


But that can’t be done, so the choices are to self sacrifice or fix the previous admin’s treasonous acts. What is your choice?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:06 pm to
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Keep this same energy when President AOC violates a court order to implement some climate change nonsense because “our country will die without it” and Kentanji Jackson upholds it “because it’s for the good of the country”.
Hell they’re up in this thread talking about how terrible it was when Biden ignored the law. They can’t se it. They just want a Trump “win”. Even if it screw us for the future…. apparently.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:08 pm to
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What a defeatist attitude. John Boehner would be proud of you!


No, my attitude is we should deport these people immediately. You are the defeated one who says we have to give them apl due process and let them out pending court dates so they can apleal for years and wait out the Trump admin.

So congrats, that's what you've got. Nothing can be done to deport the 20 million aliens Biden brought into the country. At least you've got your principles while rapists and murderers run free across our nation.

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Trump decided to go about it in an indefensible way


Only to defeatist losers like you. The moronic idea that we could have fixed this only if Trump could gain a coalition is the absolute dumbest nonsense ever stated here. The fix already exists. He already is allowed to do this. The problem is the courts and losers like you.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68498 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:13 pm to
Yeah, I'm not so sure I would be comfortable with her designations of "terrorists," "gang members," and "threats to national security."
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:13 pm to
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You are the defeated one
Liar. I at least realize this is just a temporary order, and Congress could always act.

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Nothing can be done to deport the 20 million aliens Biden brought into the country.
That’s your claim. And it’s patently false. But cling to that victim trophy. You’re giving the democrats a rerun for the championship.

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The moronic idea that we could have fixed this only if Trump could gain a coalition is the absolute dumbest nonsense ever stated here.
So you’re sayig the only way to enforce the law is to break the law?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:15 pm to
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That’s your claim. And it’s patently false. But cling to that victim trophy. You’re giving the democrats a rerun for the championship.


Nope, not a claim. It's a fact. We absolutely do not have time to give every illegal immigrant a day in court if we want this country to survive. FACT.

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you’re sayig the only way to enforce the law is to break the law?


No. The Trump admin is acting completely within its authority. The courts are not.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 6:16 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:18 pm to
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Great. Congrats. You're getting the country you're advocating for. Hopefully they move a lot of illegal aliens to your neighborhood when they gain power again.


This is the emotional, childish response we’re trying to get you to grow out of.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:22 pm to
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This is the emotional, childish response we’re trying to get you to grow out of.


No, it's the future you're advocating for. We either deport the illegal aliens, or the country is lost. There is no in between.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:22 pm to
Eh. Elections have consequences, remember?

Besides, are these the battles the party should be fighting right now? Even you are foretelling of “president full sweater empty head”. You guys are fricked if you don’t start cleaning this mess up. Good thing for us, you won’t. The TDS is stage 4.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:23 pm to
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Nope, not a claim. It's a fact. We absolutely do not have time to continue to allow carbon emissions if we want this planet to survive. FACT.


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No. The AOC admin is acting completely within its authority. The courts are not.


Really, do you not see the danger in setting aside the only constitutional constriants that prohibit the executive to implement policy at will?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:26 pm to
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Really, do you not see the danger in setting aside the only constitutional constriants that prohibit the executive to implement policy at will?


Disingenuous nonsense. Citizens and illegal aliens are not the same, and never will be.
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