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re: Breaking: Supreme Court Blocks Trump’s Use of Alien Enemies Act to Deport Illegals
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:01 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:01 pm to imjustafatkid
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Oh no. It has everything to do with it.
What does her murder have to do with a discussion about the legality of Trump's current policies/actions and his possible violation of court orders made against his current policies/actions?
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You are advocating for stall tactics that will result in more Laken Rileys
I'm arguing for the Constitution.
You seem to think we need to ignore it.
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The president enforces the law and does not need, via the constitution, to ask their permission.
He needs the permission of Congress and must act within that permission, and cannot act otherwise violating the Constitution.
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The President of the USA does not need to go to congress to ask permission to ENFORCE the CONSTITUTION nor what has been already given to him.
You can continue to play games and continue to make a arse out of yourself if you want. But the above is fact!
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I am. Why can't the President deport a US Citizen, exactly?
I don't give a fook what you are NOW talking about in an attempt to change the conversation.
Nobody is talking about US Citizens.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:04 pm to BCreed1
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The President of the USA does not need to go to congress to ask permission to ENFORCE the CONSTITUTION
I was using your language to reference the Congressional statute.
The President cannot deport anyone without Congress permitting him the authority via statute.
That statute has limitations and the President must act within them.
Also, if the President acts within this statutory authority, that action must also be within the Constitutional limits on the Executive.
There is no Constitutional authority for the President to deport anyone without Congress permitting him to do so (via statute)
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:05 pm to BCreed1
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I don't give a fook what you are NOW talking about in an attempt to change the conversation.
I'm not. I'm giving an example of the President violating both his statutory authority AND Constitutional limits as an example directly relevant for the conversation.
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Nobody is talking about US Citizens.
I am. Why can't a President deport one?
Hint: I already gave you the answer
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:05 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:No. I'm saying I can make up "it's for the good of the nation" for just about anything. If in the president's mind it's "for the good of the nation" is the criteria for the president being immune for judicial branch.... there is basically no power the president couldn't have. It's completely subjective.
I mean sure. You can pretend SCOTUS ruled against vaccine mandates with enough time for them not to be forced upon people if you'd like.
I get you want that now, that your guy is there. But you didn't want it when Biden was there, and you won't when the next democrat is in there. And that's the problem. You want a government of men, not a government of laws... when it your team.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:05 pm to BCreed1
There has to be some agreement that there is such a thing as an illegal deportation.
Then you can have an argument over what crosses the line or not.
Then you can have an argument over what crosses the line or not.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
It has everything to do with this conversation. An ILLEGAL person murdered a US CITIZEN.
Lesser courts filled with activist judges are seizing power to keep those people here.
In fact, they are doing it against CONGRESSIONAL LAW! The Laken Riley Act.
Lesser courts filled with activist judges are seizing power to keep those people here.
In fact, they are doing it against CONGRESSIONAL LAW! The Laken Riley Act.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:06 pm to AGGIES
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There has to be some agreement that there is such a thing as an illegal deportation.
Then you can have an argument over what crosses the line or not.
Correct.
Their arguments are pretty misguided and all over the place. You'd think it's in the Constitution alone that the President can deport people
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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When was the vaccine mandate under OSHA illegally enforced after the ruling?
completely irrelevant. The people who refused had already been fired. What was there to enforce? quote:
When was the student loan forgiveness under HEROES Act done after the ruling?
Biden said himself that he still went through with student loan forgiveness. Qualify it however you want, but the effect is the same.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:06 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:That's up to Congress. Maybe we should elect better congressmen?
However, there were no consequences to his actions.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:07 pm to imjustafatkid
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Oh no. It has everything to do with it. You are advocating for stall tactics that will result in more Laken Rileys. You just don't want to admit it.
Because he is pro this.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:07 pm to AGGIES
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There has to be some agreement that there is such a thing as an illegal deportation.
Of course. There can be illegal deportation of people who are here legally.
There cannot be illegal deportation of people who are here illegally.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:08 pm to imjustafatkid
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completely irrelevant.
Maybe you forgot what you said. I'll repeat it
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He was not stopped in either instance.
So, I'll give you another opportunity:
When was the vaccine mandate under OSHA illegally enforced after the ruling?
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Biden said himself that he still went through with student loan forgiveness.
Not via the HEROES Act. The Supreme Court ruled he exceeded his statutory authority under the HEROES Act exclusively.
So, I'll give you another opportunity:
When was the student loan forgiveness under HEROES Act done after the ruling?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:08 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:Relativism is stuipd.
Which is closer to lawlessness?
quote:You'll have to explain. Because you made that choice for me. Good job on defeathing the strawman, tho. Was it a tough battle?
Why do you choose to oppose number 2?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm arguing for the Constitution.
No you are not. You are advocating for activist judges seizing power of the Executive branch to enforce what congress put in to law and signed by a president.
You are actually arguing against it!
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:09 pm to Taxing Authority
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That's up to Congress. Maybe we should elect better congressmen?
Translation: "Convince leftists to vote for the law, or we're just going to have to live with lawlessness."
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:10 pm to imjustafatkid
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Of course. There can be illegal deportation of people who are here legally.
Based on what?
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There cannot be illegal deportation of people who are here illegally.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:10 pm to Taxing Authority
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You'll have to explain. Because you made that choice for me. Good job on defeathing the strawman, tho. Was it a tough battle?
No, that's what you've chosen. You want every illegal alien to go before a court before being deported. That is not feasible. Our country will not survive what you want.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:10 pm to BCreed1
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You are advocating for activist judges seizing power of the Executive branch to enforce what congress put in to law and signed by a president.
You are actually arguing against it!
You're making a huge assumption. Do you know what that assumption is?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 3:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:But remember... he's against activist judges...
The Supreme Court doesn't get to just declare something. There is a process to get in front of the Supreme Court for a ruling.
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