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re: Breaking: Supreme Court Blocks Trump’s Use of Alien Enemies Act to Deport Illegals

Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Biden did those though.


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And you supported it right?


No

However, there were no consequences to his actions.

Evidently, that is the new normal.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Problem is, that's false. They didn't. The mandate went into effect before they ruled.

The Supreme Court does not, in fact, operate a time machine
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:48 pm to
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The opposite is also true.


Define "the opposite"



What is the opposite of "choose NOT to enforce laws in certain situations"?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:48 pm to
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However, there were no consequences to his actions.

Not true. He was prohibited from either action, and stopped in both instances.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:50 pm to
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What is the opposite of "choose NOT to enforce laws in certain situations"?

Lots of people are making illogical leaps doing just that

Here is one example

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therefore, if the executive is not in violation of the law by using discretion to choose not to enforce laws, to which they are sworn, it seems logically....

the executive can choose, by discretion, not to enforce this judges ruling and deport him straight to El Salvador. The DOJ, who would enforce such, is a member of the executive and chooses, because of lax policies, not to enforce the judges ruling.


...which is why I said you need to define what you mean.

I need to make sure you're not making the same irrational arguments
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Irony


Which is closer to lawlessness?

1. Letting in 20 million illegal aliens in 4 years?
2. Deporting 20 million illegal aliens in 4 years?

For me, number 1 is clearly closer to lawlessness.

Why do you choose to oppose number 2?
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 2:52 pm
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50084 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:51 pm to
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The Supreme Court does not, in fact, operate a time machine


Wow. Riveting.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:51 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


You are being a dick and you know it. It's funny watching you type as if you know more than anybody else while proving yourself an idiot.


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The President deporting people outside of Congressional authority is an illegal deportation.



The president enforces the law and does not need, via the constitution, to ask their permission.

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deporting a US citizen


Nobody is talking about a US Citizen.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44324 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:52 pm to
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As I originally said. White flag.


Laken didn’t waive the white flag to your boy, I won’t waive to white flag either. Continue with your advocacy for the criminal invaders though.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:53 pm to
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The Supreme Court does not, in fact, operate a time machine


They had plenty of time to block the mandate, and they were asked to do so.

They didn't, because they wanted to both rule the way they inevitably did while also not actually stopping the unconstitutional actions of the Biden admin.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:53 pm to
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What is the opposite of "choose NOT to enforce laws in certain situations"?


Lots of people are making illogical leaps doing just that


It's pretty clear. So step up and answer it.


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I need to make sure you're not making


LOL! Ok POPS!

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:55 pm to
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Laken didn’t waive the white flag to your boy,


Wait... is he now blaming what happened to her on her?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:55 pm to
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Not true. He was prohibited from either action, and stopped in both instances.


He was not stopped in either instance.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:56 pm to
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The president enforces the law and does not need, via the constitution, to ask their permission.

He needs the permission of Congress and must act within that permission, and cannot act otherwise violating the Constitution.

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Nobody is talking about a US Citizen.

I am. Why can't the President deport a US Citizen, exactly?

Because that would exceed his Congressional authority?

Because that would violate the Constitution?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:57 pm to
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They had plenty of time to block the mandate, and they were asked to do so.


The Supreme Court doesn't get to just declare something. There is a process to get in front of the Supreme Court for a ruling.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:57 pm to
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However, there were no consequences to his actions.

Evidently, that is the new normal.


That's clearly what these guys want.

Democrats get to destroy the country by choosing not to enforce laws.

Republicans can't fix it by choosing to enforce those laws.

Apparently we need new laws saying we can enforce the laws already on the books.

This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 2:58 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:58 pm to
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Wait... is he now blaming what happened to her on her?

No. jimmy is attempting an emotional diversion and I told him it's a white flag and the terrible murder of LR has nothing to do with this conversation.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:59 pm to
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He was not stopped in either instance.

When was the vaccine mandate under OSHA illegally enforced after the ruling?

When was the student loan forgiveness under HEROES Act done after the ruling?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:59 pm to
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No. jimmy is attempting an emotional diversion and I told him it's a white flag and the terrible murder of LR has nothing to do with this conversation.


Oh no. It has everything to do with it. You are advocating for stall tactics that will result in more Laken Rileys. You just don't want to admit it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Republicans can't fix it by choosing to enforce those laws.

Straw man.

Republicans just need to enforce the laws within the statutory authority and Constitutional limits of the actions.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 3:00 pm
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