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re: Breaking: Supreme Court Blocks Trump’s Use of Alien Enemies Act to Deport Illegals

Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:10 pm to
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I think extrapolating what a two-bit judge in NY did to the entire system is not a good place to be.

Yet, somehow, more logical than a Laken Riley reference
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:10 pm to
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I think extrapolating what a two-bit judge in NY did to the entire system is not a good place to be.


Did the system stop it? If not, then this is an appropriate extrapolation.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:11 pm to
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I wonder if Laken Riley agrees with your take?


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White flag.


She involuntarily surrendered.

Is that your point, in knighting for criminal invaders?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:11 pm to
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It's 100% an unforced error and one that's hurting the admin in the polls (I posted it earlier)


You posted a poll from before he was arrested.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:11 pm to
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The Supreme Court described the action as both "illegal' and "improper"


I haven’t read the entire decision. Were they simply citing the admins description or did they rule it was illegal independent of the admins description? If so I concede. Though I think that is a very dangerous precedent to set. Calling improper illegal opens a huge can of worms and should concern every litigator in this country.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:12 pm to
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Did the system stop it?

One could argue it did in the florida-federal case

There wasn't anything the feds could do with the NY/GA cases

The DC case never went to trial, but was litigated to 1 or 2 supreme court decision that came down on Trump's side
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477247 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:12 pm to
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except the Dems who are making a grave error.


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The "Trump is violating court orders" narrative is a strong one..

Trump is already losing support on immigration

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An April Echelon Insights survey of 1,014 likely voters found that 54 percent approve of Trump's actions on immigration, with 44 percent disapproving, giving the president a net score of plus 10 points.

A previous Echelon Insights poll of 1,007 likely voters, conducted March 10-13, found that Trump had a net approval score of plus 18 points (57 percent approve to 39 percent disapprove).


LINK

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Trump and his team believe that the president has public opinion on their side for both Abrego Garcia and their plans to send alleged criminals to El Salvador. He campaigned on conducting mass deportations and he won many counties along the U.S.-Mexico border that historically voted Democratic in the wake of an influx of migrants during the Biden administration.

But a new poll shows his support is cracking. Echelon Insights, a Republican polling outlet, released a survey of Trump’s approval rating on various policies and it showed that Trump is losing support on immigration.

The poll revealed that Trump’s approval rating on immigration fell from a net score of plus-18 points to a net score of plus-10 points, a drop of eight points in just weeks.

Echelon is one of the most respected polling firms on the Republican side. The firm’s founding partner, Patrick Ruffini, has written extensively about Trump’s appeal among working-class voters.


The echo chamber is still in denial over this. It's going to claim these polls are fake and attack the source. When this keeps up and is revealed to be true, they'll get to the rage part and talk about how stupid America is being influenced by MSM (after saying for months the MSM was dead due to X and podcasts).
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:12 pm to
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There wasn't anything the feds could do with the NY/GA cases


Then the system failed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477247 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:13 pm to
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She involuntarily surrendered.


The terrible tragedy of her murder has literally nothing to do with this discussion.

Trying to interject her is emotionality at best and retardation at worst.

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Is that your point, in knighting for criminal invaders?

I don't defend any criminality of Garcia or the guy who killed LR. Those discussions are literally irrelevant to this legal discussion.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:13 pm to
You are still posting a poll from before that guy was arrested.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477247 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:14 pm to
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You posted a poll from before he was arrested.

Is English your 2nd language? Do we need to call ICE on you?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:14 pm to
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Ah, so your argument is that the judiciary is ruling against the best interests of our nation, and that's good. Got it.
No. You don’t got it. You got a strawman argument that you made up in your head.

“The best interests of our nation” isn’t the standard we operate under here. Biden thought DEI and open borders were “the best interest of our nation”. So you supported him power to enact those things, right?

Hell, “the best interest of our nation” is how we ended up covid shutdowns and mandatory vaxxing. Take Trumps d*cl out of you mouth long enough to look at how power is granted to the exec branch for just a moment.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477247 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:15 pm to
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You are still posting a poll from before that guy was arrested.


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An April Echelon Insights survey of 1,014 likely voters found that 54 percent approve of Trump's actions on immigration, with 44 percent disapproving, giving the president a net score of plus 10 points.


Was he deported prior to or after April 1?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477247 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Then the system failed.

Or you're just admitting this conversation is beyond your intelligence and you have no idea how "the system" is set up
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44324 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:16 pm to
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The terrible tragedy of her murder has literally nothing to do with this discussion.


So it wasn’t a an illegal invader that killed her?

That criminal was not only NOT deported, but was released prior to her death.

Are you arguing that an expedited deportation (what Trump is attempting) wouldn’t have made a difference in her death.

How disconnected from reality are you?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:17 pm to
He’s made a suicide pact with bureaucracy. Not for himself. He doesn’t think it affects him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477247 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:17 pm to
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So it wasn’t a an illegal invader that killed her?

It was. Irrelevant to teh conversation.

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Are you arguing that an expedited deportation (what Trump is attempting) wouldn’t have made a difference in her death.

What does this have to do with Trump's actions as President and the powers of the judiciary?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44324 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:17 pm to
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“The best interests of our nation” isn’t the standard we operate under here. Biden thought DEI and open borders were “the best interest of our nation”. So you supported him power to enact those things, right?


Biden did those though.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:17 pm to
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"The best interests of our nation” isn’t the standard we operate under here. Biden thought DEI and open borders were “the best interest of our nation”. So you supported him power to enact those things, right?


Of course not. You're supporting his open border policies, not me. I'm advocating for the Trump admin to be able to reverse that damage in the same way Biden created it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477247 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:17 pm to
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He’s made a suicide pact with bureaucracy. N

No. A country based on laws and a Constitution.
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