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re: Breaking: Kari Lake loses trial to overturn Arizona Governor election - Vows to appeal
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:08 pm to VolcanicTiger
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:08 pm to VolcanicTiger
quote:Certainly something YOU would NEVER do …..
cheap applause from the dumbasses in the thread
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:16 pm to loogaroo
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Probably half of the republicans out there want to put the toothpaste back in the tube and act like Bush was on their side. They sleep easier that way, but they are fricking their kids and grandkids.
You typed this post out about me. Pretend you know shite you don’t, and ignore things that have been typed out in simple English to you - instead of addressing the one thing that would have contributed something to this thread. So I’ll try again -
You’re certain KL was robbed. That implies you know either how she was cheated out of nearly 17K votes or how Hobbs was unduly credited with 17K votes, or some combination that adds up to 17K votes.
Connect the dots on what happened and show your math that puts the number of votes at anything close to 17K.
Anybody that wants to help loogaroo, have at it. This is another thread of over a hundred posts where the majority of posters have no facts, but are absolutely certain of what happened.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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The only people moving to South Carolina
Lol. As if you have any idea of the kind of people moving to South Carolina. You don't, but the narcissist you are compels you to think you do. One need only spend a few hours traveling down Hwy 17 from Horry County down to Beaufort County to see you're an absolute liar. Most of our transplants are retirees who move here for the lower cost of living, the beaches and the weather.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:17 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Communism wins again. Congrats.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:21 pm to lizlady68
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We are victims of a Tyrannical government and we can only change it if we have the courage to revolt!
look at you. encouraging insurrection.
get back to Putin for me.
my message;
he's getting off easy.
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did you see where saboteurs set fire to a vehicle depot in Moscow yesterday. that was the 50th such incident since the war.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:24 pm to SCLibertarian
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Lol. As if you have any idea of the kind of people moving to South Carolina.
Correct, I know more about the people moving from Ohio to South Carolina than you. 77 to 95 on the way to Florida. South Carolina is cheaper and has almost the exact same drug use statistics. A lot of them aren't even Ohioans. They just crept across the line from Kentucky and West Virginia.
Feels right at home for them and gets them out of my home state. Really, we should thank you for helping to clean up the trash in our state.
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Most of our transplants are retirees who move here for the lower cost of living, the beaches and the weather.
Those people are going to Florida, not South Carolina.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:30 pm to eitek1
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There are videos of folks standing in really long lines and election folks come out and tell these people the machines are down. You can hear the responses from the people. They are pissed.
Yes. This is true. But you need to put it in perspective.
250,000 in-person votes were cast in 223 voting centers that were located, on average, 1.8 miles apart. Consider what that means.
Each voting center has multiple printers and at least two tabulators. When a printer or tabulator went BO, that doesn’t mean you could not cast a vote.
There was one voting center up in Anrhem that had very long lines that persisted for hours early in the day and late. The reason this happened was, unlike other voting centers, Anthem is remote. A voter didn’t have the option of going to a less busy nearby center.
If voter frustration leading to disenfranchisement was how KL lost an election she should have won, her legal team did a shitty job off establishing that. Based on the numbers (above) I don’t think that’s what happened, but if it did they should have been able to provide evidence that the county’s reports/records re: wait times were fake. They didn’t do that. They didn’t even really try.
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:37 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Those people are going to Florida, not South Carolina.
Again, we have 2 million people in SC over the age of 50. That's almost 40% of our entire population, so yes the bulk of people coming here are seniors. The Grand Strand, Charleston and Beaufort-Hilton Head are full of retirees. There are multiple Del Webb communities in my home county alone, not counting the Sun City sites in the Lowcountry.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If Hobbs has nothing to gain and potentially a lot to lose in a debate, why participate?
Nothing to gain in a race she was losing in the polls?
A race that ended up a statistical dead heat?
Gtfo.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:43 pm to the808bass
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Nothing to gain in a race she was losing in the polls?
A race that ended up a statistical dead heat?
Gtfo.
Keep saying it people, don't let them win, we all know Hobbs cheated.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If Hobbs has nothing to gain and potentially a lot to lose in a debate, why participate? The rational move is to not debate. It not only protect Hobbs, but it takes the wind out of the sails of someone like Lake.
Hobbs didn’t just not debate Lake. She didn’t debate in the primary either. And literally hid in a bathroom to avoid answering questions about her policy stances.
She is the quintessential “bad candidate”that you and other stupid people like you have been harping on for 6+ weeks now. And you’re going to twist yourselves into any untold number of knots to avoid talking about that and act like it doesn’t matter.
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There is plenty of substance there, and no emotion.
Literally the opposite. No surprise you don’t know what either of those words mean.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 10:48 pm to TomBuchanan
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lsunurse has no idea what the policies are
She was actually stupid enough to say hobbs is going to get the border under control because she ran a campaign commercial saying so. Completely ignoring years worth of data that proves otherwise.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:06 pm to David_DJS
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Yes. This is true. But you need to put it in perspective. 250,000 in-person votes were cast in 223 voting centers that were located, on average, 1.8 miles apart. Consider what that means. Each voting center has multiple printers and at least two tabulators. When a problem get or tabulator went BO, that doesn’t mean you could cast a vote. There was one voting center up in Anrhem that had very long lines that persisted for hours early in the day and late. The reason this happened was, unlike other voting centers, Anthem is remote. A voter didn’t have the option of going to a less busy nearby center. If voter frustration leading to disenfranchisement was how KL lost an election she should have won, her legal team did a shitty job off establishing that. Based on the numbers (above) I don’t think that’s what happened, but if it did they should have been able to provide evidence that the county’s reports/records re: wait times were fake. They didn’t do that. They didn’t even really try.
I agree in theory if the failures were distributed evenly across the entire county. They weren’t all but 5 of the 72 voting centers that had issues were in heavily Red areas. That seems statistically improbable if it’s a simple error.
Let’s not ignore the fact that the “box 3” votes weren’t counted before they were sent to the Central counting center. If they were going to cheat, they could make the votes in the primarily red areas go into “box 3” to be counted at the central location. On the way there you could remove 1000 votes from each of the 68 locations and transplant 500 new ballots that are all for Hobbs. Boom, Hobbs now has a huge lead and no one is the wiser.
That scenario can only happen if the ballots go into box 3. The box 3 thing can only happen if the 19” ballots get printed in the primarily red areas.
Also, don’t forget Hobbs witnesses said this happened in the 2020 general election, the 2022 primaries and the latest. Tell me, why don’t they have an investigation into why this keeps happening? Sorry but it’s all too convenient.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:21 pm to eitek1
What a fricking shocker. Called this last week
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:27 pm to LSU2ALA
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If you’ve gotten to this point in the thread and haven’t read it yet, read the judge’s opinion. It’s only 10 pages and walks through it all. Very informative.
Judge’s Opinion
Thanks for posting this. It's got really good information on why the judge decided what he did as he goes through each witnesses claims and statements piece by piece against the laws and standards of Arizona.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:37 pm to eitek1
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agree in theory if the failures were distributed evenly across the entire county. They weren’t all but 5 of the 72 voting centers that had issues were in heavily Red areas. That seems statistically improbable if it’s a simple error.
Honest question - can you link to the map or analysis where it’s established that 67 of the 72 are heavily Republican? I’d be interested in seeing that.
That said, a few things to know about Maricopa County. There aren’t many “Dem areas” - there are more independents than Democrats. I don’t even think there are many heavily Republican areas. I think voter registration breaks down like 35% R, 35% I and 30% D.
I’m willing to believe the elections assholes, or someone there, made the 19” ballot issue happen. I’m not sure it was proven, but given how obnoxious/arrogant that group is, and the fight they’ve had with the legislature, I thinks it’s better than 50/50 the ballot issue was not an honest mistake.
But there isn’t a dot to connect from that frickery to tens of thousands of disenfranchised voters. And if I’m wrong about that, it would be easy to prove. And it wasn’t.
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Let’s not ignore the fact that the “box 3” votes weren’t counted before they were sent to the Central counting center. If they were going to cheat, they could make the votes in the primarily red areas go into “box 3” to be counted at the central location. On the way there you could remove 1000 votes from each of the 68 locations and transplant 500 new ballots that are all for Hobbs. Boom, Hobbs now has a huge lead and no one is the wiser.
There was testimony, and it wasn’t pushed back on by Team Lake, that all the loading up, transport, offloading, unpacking, then processing of box 3 ballots occurred with a Republican (and Dem) observer present.
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Also, don’t forget Hobbs witnesses said this happened in the 2020 general election, the 2022 primaries and the latest. Tell me, why don’t they have an investigation into why this keeps happening? Sorry but it’s all too convenient.
Good question. I’ve said. before, there’s no excuse for this election to have been administered so poorly. That’s part of the reason I think it was purposeful. You can’t tell me “professionals” and “experts” - highly paid, by the way - can be honestly so inept.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:41 pm to eitek1
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On the way there you could remove 1000 votes from each of the 68 locations and transplant 500 new ballots that are all for Hobbs. Boom, Hobbs now has a huge lead and no one is the wiser.
How would they do this without breaking the seals?
Posted on 12/25/22 at 5:36 am to mtntiger
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I guess the judge missed the part where the expert testified that only someone with admin access could change the printer settings.
The My Pillow Guy’s expert? Y’all refuse to wake up.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 6:12 am to lsunurse
Melt Dis
Posted on 12/25/22 at 6:17 am to TGFN57
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Another courts time and money wasted by cultists.
Not everybody qualifies for the Dim cult, some of us have brains
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