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Jjdoc
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Breaking development in Roger Stone Case.
Just a quick summery. Stone won discovery. The Mueller team has tried to keep Stone from the "evidence" against him stating it's not necessary for his defense.

Friday, Stone filed 2 documents in response to the Mueller's team. Stone wants to either be allowed to see it or the "evidence removed":

Stone states:

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The specific challenge to the truthfulness of all the warrants is the unproven claim that the Russian state transferred the DNC and DCCC, and other campaign officials’ data to WikiLeaks. Or, said a different way, WikiLeaks received the data from the Russian state. The government should not have represented this as a fact to the various district judges and magistrates in order to obtain the search warrants.

The government has never had to prove its case. The series of misrepresentations is foundational.

The government does not dispute in its opposition: “The Office cannot rule out that stolen documents were transferred to WikiLeaks through intermediaries who visited during the summer of 2016.” Robert S. Mueller, Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election, 47 (2019) (emphasis added) (hereinafter “Mueller Report”). Declarations from William Binney and Peter Clay, experts in this field concur that WikiLeaks did not receive the stolen data from Russia. (Doc. 100-1; Doc. 100-3). This evidence was discoverable to the government simply by analyzing the documents from the WikiLeaks database. It required no warrant of any entity or person at all.

Because the Russian state did not transfer the data to WikiLeaks, all other allegations, including communications with Assange or WikiLeaks are irrelevant and immaterial to investigation about Russian interference with 2016 election.


There are 12 pages in that first doc....


In the 2nd doc filed:

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Defendant, Roger J. Stone respectfully moves to compel discovery of the unredacted copies of the CrowdStrike Reports. In light of the government’s representation that it does not have the unredacted reports.




Yes Stalinists... this is gateway.... and every court document is linked




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Tony Tiger89
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re: Breaking development in Roger Stone Case.
Stone just like Flynn, will be a free man after all said and done !! Hope there is some way to get back all the attorney fees, to make them whole again !!


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re: Breaking development in Roger Stone Case.
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The Mueller team has tried to keep Stone from the "evidence" against him stating it's not necessary for his defense


Scary shite here

You arent allowed to see evidence against you

Soviet kangaroo court shit


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The Mueller team has tried to keep Stone from the "evidence" against him stating it's not necessary for his defense.


Isn't this unconstitutional? Or does that just pertain to accusers?


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CoachChappy
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The Mueller team has tried to keep Stone from the "evidence" against him stating it's not necessary for his defense

Every American should be scared shitless that the government would have the nerve to suggest this in a case against an American citizen.


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BugAC
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re: Breaking development in Roger Stone Case.
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The Mueller team has tried to keep Stone from the "evidence" against him stating it's not necessary for his defense.


Lol, because that's legit.

FBI: "We have evidence proving your guilty"
Stone: "Ok, let me see it"
FBI: "You don't need to see it because it's not necessary"
Stone: "Ok, then clearly this evidence should be thrown out"
FBI: "We can't throw it out, because it's necessary for our case, just not necessary for your defense".



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Jack Ruby
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re: Breaking development in Roger Stone Case.
If you go to trial, the Defendant is constitutionally subject to the prosecutions discovery... At least it is at a state level.

Now, if a trial has yet to be set, I'm not sure. But most judges will allow the an accused to at least see the evidence against them. The fact that Mueller is trying to hold it, should tell you all you need to know.

"nope, we're only charging you with outlandish allegations that really have nothing to do with anything, but, you know what, we're not going to turn over any evidence against you that we've based this whope accusation on."

Yeah, that's not fricked at all.


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Scary shite here You arent allowed to see evidence against you Soviet kangaroo court shit


Yep. If this is allowed to happen, it pretty much sets a new standard that the government can come after you whenever they want for whatever they want - and you can’t do shite about it.

We’ll be no better than Russia or China.
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bamarep
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He should sue Mueller personally. frick this bull shite.


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antibarner
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Stone has an uphill battle with that judge, she is in Mueller's pocket.


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Because the Russian state did not transfer the data to WikiLeaks, all other allegations, including communications with Assange or WikiLeaks are irrelevant and immaterial to investigation about Russian interference with 2016 election.


He scared

"You are a rat. A stoolie. You backstab your friends-run your mouth my lawyers are dying Rip you to shreds

I’m going to take that dog away from you. Not a fricking thing you can do about it either because you are a weak broke piece of shit"
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re: Breaking development in Roger Stone Case.
I'm not following exactly what Roger Stone is being charged with.

Is he insinuating that if Wikileaks received materials from the DNC hack from anyone other than Russia, then he didn't commit a crime? Or that the pretext for the investigation would not exist? Or what? Would the government be forced to concede any of this?


antibarner
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One is that old Mueller standby, Obstruction of Justice. I don't know about the rest.


BobBoucher
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The Mueller team has tried to keep Stone from the "evidence" against him stating it's not necessary for his defense.


Where the hell is Barr in all of this? He could swat this shite down in a hot minute.


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Tony Tiger89
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Hey Antifa pussy, want to permanent ban bet Stone, and Flynn walk ??

And no alter for me, unlike you !!


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I'm not following exactly what Roger Stone is being charged with.


He threatened to rough up Credico’s cocker spaniel.
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