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re: Boy who suffered up to 100 seizures a day has none in 300 days after taking Cannabis Oil

Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:15 am to
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:15 am to
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You potheads that just wanna get high and drive around messed up are the reason criminal penalties exist and frankly need to be stronger.



Jeff, is that you?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:18 am to
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So who here wants to defend this still being illegal? It is ridiculous given what we know about cannabis especially given how widely accepted alcohol is.
You are mixing metaphors. I've long held that illegality of marijuana is ridiculous, especially in comparison with alcohol. However, recreational substance abuse has nothing to do with this child.

THC is the psychoactive substance in marijuana. The Cannabis Oil Extract this boy was given to treat his Dravet Syndrome contains little to no THC. It does not make him "high". It's active component is cannabidiol (CPD).

The story also notes he's being separately given THCA, a precursor to THC. That seems a more questionable issue.

We've known about anti-seizure effects of cannabidiol for several years. It's been used for that purpose in the US. "Journalists" manipulating this story into a legalized pot initiative are doing these kids a disservice. Of course those "journalists" are likely more interested in smoking legalized weed than they are in producing factually accurate copy. So this is a personally motivating opportunity for them.
Posted by DeafJam73
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:18 am to
I am all for the legalization of marijuana. The benefits far out weight the cons. It would put a huge dent in the drug trade, become a good source of tax revenue and serve all types of purposes. I am close with someone who is in pharmaceutical research. Said person has told me that cannabis is a very powerful, natural medical remedy that can help treat many ailments. However, since it is illegal, they cannot test its effects properly on a broader spectrum of diseases.

ETA: Cannabis will never be a "cure" for diseases, but it can help greatly with treatment. My friend in research says that a combination of medical drugs and cannabis can go a long way to treating very serious diseases, including cancer.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 5:22 am
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:22 am to
The oil has proven to do even more. There are many cases of parents of children with leukemia moving to Colorado to treat their children. It may have expanded to other states but I have read about specific clinics there utilizing the oil specifically for leukemia treatments in children. It has been successful from what I've read.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:31 am to
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The oil has proven to do even more. There are many cases of parents of children with leukemia moving to Colorado to treat their children
Indeed.

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Cannabidiol as potential anticancer drug
Br J Clin Pharmacol. 2013 Feb; 75(2): 303–312.
Paola Massi, Marta Solinas, Valentina Cinquina, and Daniela Parolaro


Over the past years, several lines of evidence support an antitumourigenic effect of cannabinoids including ?9-tetrahydrocannabinol (?9-THC), synthetic agonists, endocannabinoids and endocannabinoid transport or degradation inhibitors. Indeed, cannabinoids possess anti-proliferative and pro-apoptotic effects and they are known to interfere with tumour neovascularization, cancer cell migration, adhesion, invasion and metastasization. However, the clinical use of ?9-THC and additional cannabinoid agonists is often limited by their unwanted psychoactive side effects, and for this reason interest in non-psychoactive cannabinoid compounds with structural affinity for ?9-THC, such as cannabidiol (CBD), has substantially increased in recent years. The present review will focus on the efficacy of CBD in the modulation of different steps of tumourigenesis in several types of cancer and highlights the importance of exploring CBD/CBD analogues as alternative therapeutic agents.

LINK
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:35 am to
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However, since it is illegal, they cannot test its effects properly on a broader spectrum of diseases.
That is not really true.
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Cannabis will never be a "cure" for diseases
That is almost certainly not true.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:40 am to
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I am all for the legalization of marijuana. The benefits far out weight the cons. It would put a huge dent in the drug trade, become a good source of tax revenue and serve all types of purposes. I am close with someone who is in pharmaceutical research.


But how are we going to fill up all our prisons if we decriminalize it?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 6:32 am to
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These people just want to get high

I don't want to get high, but it absolutely should be legal.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 6:37 am to
The fact we have not legalized or decriminalized cannabis is the 2nd greatest failure of this century.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41497 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 6:41 am to
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Personally, I don't see why we frame this as a health cost/benefit issue rather than one of self-ownership. Do whatever the frick you want with your body, whether it's eating yourself to death, getting a thousand piercings, or shooting up cocaine with high-dollar prostitutes. As long as you don't externalize the costs of your behavior, or harm someone in the process, nobody has a bit of damn authority to use legal means against you, IMO. I'll add that I don't condone any of these behaviors, and would shame someone I know for participating, but that is an entirely different thing than using the state to enforce your wishes.


I agree with you on this 100%. However, in the real world/current America, you know damn well we are forced to pay for other people's poor decisions with taxes through government funded social programs. I wish what you just laid out was the truth however
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58517 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 6:46 am to
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Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes.

It sounds like marijuana can actually cause seizures if you take too much
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 6:52 am to
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So who here wants to defend this still being illegal? It is ridiculous given what we know about cannabis especially given how widely accepted alcohol is.



While I'm in favor of legalization, your argument is weak. If a substance changes the brain's chemistry enough to 'cure' someone having seizures, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume it could have negative effects on a healthy brain? Following your argument, it should be OK for healthy people to take any and all prescription drugs since they helped someone with some condition.
Posted by Janky
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Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:09 am to
Harmless
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Roughly 10 percent of Washington state drivers involved in fatal car crashes between 2010 and 2014 tested positive for recent marijuana use, with the percentage of drivers who had used pot within hours of a crash doubling between 2013 and 2014, according to a new study by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety.


This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 7:10 am
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38021 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:21 am to
Of course there is a dui factor to legal marijuana. You probably typed that while drinking a beer. The solution is to develop a test that officers can use on the spot.
Posted by Janky
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Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:24 am to
Yes, I am drinking a beer at 7:00 getting ready for work. I am not arguing alcohol use isn't more prevalent and cause more deaths. I am replying to a post early that said marijuana doesn't kill people.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76957 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:27 am to
This supports limited medical use not legalization.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:28 am to
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I am replying to a post early that said marijuana doesn't kill people.
It doesn't kill people. Operating a vehicle while high can contribute to killing people.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:30 am to
Really? A "fix"? Statements like that show pure stupidity.
Instead of posting stupidity uou should stick to something you know. Like drinking a 12 pack of cheap beer, neck.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:42 am to
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It doesn't kill people. Operating a vehicle while high can contribute to killing people.




Lawd. That is like saying cancer doesn't kill people it is their heart not beating that caused them to die.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:47 am to
Stop being a dumbass. Its not even close to being the same thing.
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