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re: Boy Crisis of 2025, Meet the ‘Boy Problem’ of the 1900s

Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10802 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:53 pm to
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Women created hook up culture by following the men’s lead in creating hook up culture? Makes perfect sense.


Of course it doesn't make sense because that's not what I said (imagine that).

Women and men are not the same, regardless of what your feminist theory tells you. We do not think or act the same and we are not suited for the same roles in society and the family.

Feminism teaches that women and men ARE the same and that women should behave like men.

Hook up culture is what happens when women behave like men sexually.

Hopefully that is clear enough for you to at least not be able to intentionally distort, as you so love to do.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 9:56 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63069 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:53 pm to
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we created the conditions that led to the discontent that motivated women to want to leave the family.


Nope.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6290 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:53 pm to
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or the end of merit-based promotions in the workplace.

this is the lie mediocre men tell themselves.

I promise you there was extremely open gender based promotions in tech over the last 5 years.

I know older engineers who are women, they missed the promote women era and their careers were probably held back.
In tech there are many women who were promoted to just increase fairness.
We dont have a lot in tech, so it becomes obvious when your managerial staff is 40% women but your engineering pool is 12% women.

So for a few years they promoted and gave opportunities to women because for decades prior, they hadn't.

The irony is those women who were held back still work there.

...but ageism is a bitch...

Ironically many of those women are badly failing in their promotions, due to being way younger than comparable males at that level.

I dont think in my company's case we really did anyone a major favor...

Mainly because it was performative.

But yea it happened... a lot.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10802 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:54 pm to
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Don’t look know, but you’re basically saying g we need to put women where they belong.


You can look now.

I'm not saying anybody needs to put women anyplace.

I'm saying that we (all) were given instructions. We're not following them.

What we have in society is the result of us not following them.

You tell me, should we go back to trying to follow them?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10802 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:55 pm to
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Nope.


Yep.

(See how that works?)
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59343 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:56 pm to
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Capitalism did not destroy the Boy Scouts. You did.


Pedophiles destroyed Boy Scouts.

My daughter is a Girl Scout.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63069 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:57 pm to
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Ironically many of those women are badly failing in their promotions, due to being way younger than comparable males at that level.

I dont think in my company's case we really did anyone a major favor...

Mainly because it was performative.


This is the double edged sword of affirmative action. People who are promoted for color, or for sex, or for anything else not tied to performance, often can't handle the positions they end up in. They end up failing out. They may be able to blame others for it for a time, but once those excuses run out, and all the patsies are gone, they're toast.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:58 pm to
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I'm not saying anybody needs to put women anyplace. I'm saying that we (all) were given instructions. We're not following them. What we have in society is the result of us not following them. You tell me, should we go back to trying to follow them?


If you’re asking if our laws should be based on traditional judeo-Christian values, then yes we should follow them. But I don’t think we should be a theocracy, which your post teeters on espousing.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63069 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:59 pm to
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Yep.

(See how that works?)


Feminists created their own discontent. Men had nothing to do with it. Them pointing out the inadequacies of a few people doesn't make men to blame for their stupidity.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59343 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:00 pm to
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Women and men are not the same, regardless of what your feminist theory tells you


I never said men and women are the same and I don’t call myself a feminist.

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Hook up culture is what happens when women behave like men sexually.


It seems like you’re saying casual sex is fine for men but not for women.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10802 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:00 pm to
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But I don’t think we should be a theocracy, which your post teeters on espousing.


It does no such thing. It doesn't get within 100 yards of the "edge" of anything resembling what you're claiming.

I never said or even hinted that any of that should be legally codified in any way.

You're as bad as cubs about lying about what people say.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 10:01 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109821 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:02 pm to
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Males did just fine all throughout history without killing themselves and for 99% of that time there were no Boy Scouts.


I would suggest if you unpack this a bit more, you might find historical reality doesn’t stand up to exactly what you are saying.

What successful societies throughout history have lacked a sort of regimented institution for young men to develop themselves? Historically it has been either militarily or through religious institutions, and later developed within education (which also historically encompassed either military or religious regimens - or often both).

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63069 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:05 pm to
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It seems like you’re saying casual sex is fine for men but not for women.


Casual sex was always only acceptable as a practice to a small number of men. That hasn't changed.

What has changed is that an overwhelming majority of women have now adopted casual sex as a norm.

ETA: Before you come back with some nonsense, I encourage you to research the number of women under the age of 30 who are active on OnlyFans, and then understand that isn't the full number of sexually promiscuous women under 30.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 10:09 pm
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:07 pm to
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It seems like you’re saying casual sex is fine for men but not for women.


For the majority of human history it was considered ok. Or at least not the end of the world or the family unit. You don’t have to like it but that’s the way it was.

Women who have casual sex are considered whores or sluts. Men who do it are congratulated and given high fives. It probably has something to do with that “societal value” we spoke of earlier.

Men who sleep with lots of women must have some value because lots of women want them and women who sleep with lots of men are only good for sex and not being a wife or mother because they’ll let anyone have it


Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2021 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:07 pm to
yeah here's the thing milt you include black men in that group and it skews your statistics. here's the good news! my son broke the 100k a year threshold at 27 he's married bought a house two years ago and last year made 160k as he was turning 30 the rest of you phaggots can suck his big white richard.

we're not in this thing together it's an every man for him self kinda of thing!

Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:08 pm to
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It does no such thing. It doesn't get within 100 yards of the "edge" of anything resembling what you're claiming. I never said or even hinted that any of that should be legally codified in any way.


Okay. Then I think we’re in agreement
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59343 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:08 pm to
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Casual sex was always only acceptable to a small number of men.


Does this suggest that only a small number of men have casual sex?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6290 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:09 pm to
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This is the double edged sword of affirmative action. People who are promoted for color, or for sex, or for anything else not tied to performance, often can't handle the positions they end up in. They end up failing out. They may be able to blame others for it for a time, but once those excuses run out, and all the patsies are gone, they're toast.

Yup ironically they could have promoted the older women, and our teams would have gotten Stronger...

But alas... we have 30 year olds making awful decisions.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59343 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:11 pm to
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It probably has something to do with that “societal value” we spoke of earlier.


Social capital.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63069 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:11 pm to
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Does this suggest that only a small number of men have casual sex?


Well this is a different sort of question. I'm sure quite a large number of men HAVE had casual sex. That said, the percentage of men regularly engaging in casual sex is far smaller than the percentage of women.
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