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re: Boy Crisis of 2025, Meet the ‘Boy Problem’ of the 1900s

Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:42 pm to
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Theories all blaming women.

I haven't read the whole thread but haven't seen anyone blaming women. I've seen blame laid at the feet of feminism and the politics of the last 25+ years that has brought us here.

There's a difference between "blame women" and "blaming policies that have resulted in women being handed shite at the expense of men" - and I'm mostly referring school age, so it's actually girls and boys.

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Noted. I can’t imagine how challenging life is when you are so powerless over your own life and the world around you Taking ownership over one’s own destiny is the best medicine for feeling left behind or excluded. I guess you’re waiting for a woman to give you permission to do something about the things you’re complaining about.

You can be funny at times.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5817 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Men have held the positions of power throughout US history. Men have created the conditions leading to this problem.


The problem did not exist until women started voting. With women constituents, men in charge, must do what the majority of who they represent want them to do.

So no. Men alone did not create this. Of course your sexism would not allow you to admit the hand women had in it.
This post was edited on 8/18/25 at 3:45 pm
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5817 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:47 pm to
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You're implying that having power is synonymous with either being a worthless predator or being told you are a worthless predator. Do you feel that way about the POTUS? He's powerful so he must also be a worthless predator


Only you could twist that quote, from the OP, in such a way.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5817 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:50 pm to
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What advantage do they hold?


Well, for one, women are the majority.

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Men choose not to vote


Probably do not have time after working to support a woman.

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Voting isn't a men against women competition.


Tell that to women. They, above all others, are a single issue voting block.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5817 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:55 pm to
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Theories all blaming women.


So your constant white knighting by blaming men is only to somehow even so kind of scale? Yet you say we are not in competition.

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I’m pushing back on that. My posts challenge that theory


No. No they do not. They are contrary for the sake of being contrary even to the point of lies and twisting words.

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Noted. I can’t imagine how challenging life is when you are so powerless over your own life and the world around you Taking ownership over one’s own destiny is the best medicine for feeling left behind or excluded


Ironic coming from someone who blames men for her irrational fear of men. Take ownership girl. Own your life. Stop being afraid. The sexism you exhibit also plays into your inability to control your own life. Stop it.

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I guess you’re waiting for a woman to give you permission to do something about the things you’re complaining about


Yet you are waiting on a man for the very same reasons.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139046 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 4:52 pm to
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So your constant white knighting by blaming men is only to somehow even so kind of scale? Yet you say we are not in competition.
Ironic projection, no?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 4:57 pm to
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Since plenty of people hurt children, who would be allowed to raise kids using this logic?

No no your lesbian friend is much more likely to harm the child she adopted.

Gays harm children at super high rates.

Your friend is already a deviant, she is statistically more likely to abuse children.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 5:19 pm to
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Weird take considering I’ve already posted tangible things I’ve been doing in response to this societal problem that I believe afflicts our country.


Like substitute teaching in your spare time?
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 5:19 pm to
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Like substitute teaching in your spare time?


Yes
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 5:27 pm to
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No no your lesbian friend is much more likely to harm the child she adopted.


According to what data? Everything I’ve seen indicates that adoptive parents are less likely to abuse their children than biological parents.

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Your friend is already a deviant, she is statistically more likely to abuse children.


Statistically, bio parents abuse kids at higher rates than adoptive parents. Children raised by lesbians have statistically similar outcomes to children raised by heterosexual couples. I’m not sure where you sourced your data.

I know this couple because our daughters have been in school together since they were babies and they are friends. I certainly like these women but our relationship exists because our daughters are friends. I see them at birthday parties and school events. But I definitely understand that you are condemning them based on the fact they are lesbians. Understood.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 5:35 pm to
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So your constant white knighting by blaming men is only to somehow even so kind of scale? Yet you say we are not in competition.


Not white knighting. Pointing out that men have held the power in this country since its inception. Women are a convenient scapegoat because you can demonize them without having to look in the mirror.

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Ironic coming from someone who blames men for her irrational fear of men.
speaking of twisting words…

You’re certainly free to teach your daughter(s) that it’s safe to put her drink down around men she doesn’t know or accept a ride from a man she doesn’t know. You have my blessing to think that’s rational and exercising caution around men is “having an irrational fear of men.”

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Yet you are waiting on a man for the very same reasons.


Not at all. I practice what I preach. I am heavily invested in building the self-esteems of men who have been “left behind” by society. I’m not waiting for anything.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139046 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 6:01 pm to
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Like substitute teaching in your spare time?
Interesting you'd raise that issue.

Mom was a tremendous teacher. She was awarded "Teacher of the Year" at least 12-15 times in two states and in three systems. When she died, I got >100 FB posts from folks whom I didn't know, telling me about how she'd changed their lives. It was a beautiful thing.

So I've offered to substitute ... as an MD, and as a very successful businessperson. Also as a successful father and husband. ..... Nope.

I was told "you need to hop through this hoop, commit to these hours," etc. At least that's the way it was in NC and SC. I've not bothered in GA.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 6:17 pm to
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According to what data? Everything I’ve seen indicates that adoptive parents are less likely to abuse their children than biological parents.


Not the gays.

So if we show how much more likely gays are to abuse children then you will admit this sicko shouldn't have kids?

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Statistically, bio parents abuse kids at higher rates than adoptive parents. Children raised by lesbians have statistically similar outcomes to children raised by heterosexual couples. I’m not sure where you sourced your data.

Again, if I show you to be wrong, will you admit that your "friend" shouldn't be allowed near children?

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I know this couple because our daughters have been in school together since they were babies and they are friends. I certainly like these women but our relationship exists because our daughters are friends. I see them at birthday parties and school events. But I definitely understand that you are condemning them based on the fact they are lesbians. Understood.

No, I'm condemning them because gays have a significantly higher chance of molesting children.

You are willing to put those children at risk.


Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5817 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:11 pm to
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Not white knighting

Yes, you are.

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Pointing out that men have held the power in this country since its inception. Women are a convenient scapegoat

One major thing has happened simce the nation's inception and it happened at a time just before the certain issue we are discussing.

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demonize them without having to look in the mirror.

Exactly the same thimg you refuse to do.

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speaking of twisting words

You directly said it wad men who made you afraid of men. Specifically your dad and uncle.

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You’re certainly free to teach your daughter(s) that it’s safe to put her drink down around men she doesn’t know or accept a ride from a man she doesn’t know. You have my blessing to think that’s rational and exercising caution around men is “having an irrational fear of men.”

All I had was boys. If I have granddaughters I will tell them not to be like the lady at Duke or the countless others who falsely claimed "being drugged" when they regretted a choice they freely made. I lost count of how many friends who were women blamed "someone slipped me something" after a night of drinking like a fish.

No, I will teach them to be rational and to not make those irrational choices then blame the innocent for those choices. Of course if they do, the matriarchy will make sure that we "believe all women". Unless of course it was a Democratic politician.

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Not at all. I practice what I preach. I am heavily invested in building the self-esteems of men who have been “left behind” by society. I’m not waiting for anything


Sure Jan. I am pretty sure you say the same things to them that you do here. I feel sorry for them. They will grow up thinking they are somehow toxic.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:31 pm to
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So if we show how much more likely gays are to abuse children then you will admit this sicko shouldn't have kids?


Why are you trying to derail this thread with this? Are you offended that I am allowing my daughter to be friends with a girl who was adopted from foster care by a lesbian couple?


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will you admit that your "friend" shouldn't be allowed near children?

Are you asking me to condemn my daughter’s friend’s parents? Why is this so important to you? I barely know them.


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You are willing to put those children at risk.




Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:34 pm to
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Interesting you'd raise that issue.


It’s hard to believe.

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I was told "you need to hop through this hoop, commit to these hours," etc. At least that's the way it was in NC and SC. I've not bothered in GA.


There’s also vetting involved. It’s not something you can decide to do on a whim when you have some free time (during a school day).
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:34 pm to
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Why are you trying to derail this thread with this? Are you offended that I am allowing my daughter to be friends with a girl who was adopted from foster care by a lesbian couple?

Woah woah, they are statistically more likely to abuse their children.
Gays abuse children all the time, it's perfectly acceptable to group them all together.

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Are you asking me to condemn my daughter’s friend’s parents? Why is this so important to you? I barely know them.


Yup 100% it's 100% fine to condemn them all because they abuse so many kids.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:39 pm to
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You directly said it wad men who made you afraid of men. Specifically your dad and uncle.


I did not say my dad and uncle made me afraid of men.

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ll I had was boys. If I have granddaughters I will tell them not to be like the lady at Duke or the countless others who falsely claimed "being drugged" when they regretted a choice they freely made. I lost count of how many friends who were women blamed "someone slipped me something" after a night of drinking like a fish.

No, I will teach them to be rational and to not make those irrational choices then blame the innocent for those choices. Of course if they do, the matriarchy will make sure that we "believe all women". Unless of course it was a Democratic politician.


I would love to live in your world where men never do anything wrong.


Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:41 pm to
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Gays abuse children all the time, it's perfectly acceptable to group them all together.


Gay men abuse kids all the time? Aren’t you a man? Child abuser. It’s perfectly acceptable to group you all together.
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
1437 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:42 pm to
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asked and answered



But you said it was about destroying traditional gender roles along with the nuclear family. How does that specifically destroy boys
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