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re: Boy Crisis of 2025, Meet the ‘Boy Problem’ of the 1900s

Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:54 pm to
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Republicans have tattooed the pedo label on themselves. You worship the king pedo.


This did not age well as what most rational people knew to be true was confirmed today with Barr's under oath testimony to the House Committee with Barr saying he saw no evidence of PDJT in the Epstein case. And if there was, in his opinion, *biden would have leaked it.

Take the L, loser.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13565 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:57 pm to
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But forcing men to deal with the world entirely on women's terms can absolutely lead to male depression, or worse.


Honestly, this should have been the thread right here. This one sentence.

Women trying to force themselves to deal with the world on men's terms (when they think it suits them, mind you, not when there's bricklaying that needs doing or they are pregnant and want maternity leave or the restaurant check comes or it's time to part ways in divorce) and also trying to force men to deal with the world on women's terms is the best, most concise explanation of the mess feminism has made that I have ever seen.

Well done.
This post was edited on 8/18/25 at 9:59 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13565 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:58 pm to
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And if there was, in his opinion, *biden would have leaked it.


This is what I've been saying all along.

That's how you know Trump isn't implicated in that file. Biden would have released it if he had been, even if he had to redact every other line of text in it.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:03 pm to
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That would be denial.


No. I’m serious. You have well-thought out arguments and ideas usually. It seems you’re just lashing out instead.


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What about single men?


No. Why are you trying to make this thread about adoption?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13565 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 10:09 pm to
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You have well-thought out arguments and ideas usually. It seems you’re just lashing out instead.


You can break anyone with your dishonesty. Eventually.

Asian Proverb: "The fruit ripens slowly, but falls suddenly."
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 11:02 pm to
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No. I’m serious. You have well-thought out arguments and ideas usually. It seems you’re just lashing out instead.


... you do know what the definition of denial is right?

When people have strongly held beliefs that are illogical, they often resort subconsciously to denial, shoot the messenger, ad hominem...

You saying you are not in denial is funny...

Someone in denial never realizes that they are in denial.

You should really reread that conversation, you missed nearly everything about it.

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No. Why are you trying to make this thread about adoption?


You really missed it...

Go reread it, it really would be beneficial for you.

You might realize that I am trying to help you by holding a mirror to your words. It's rather the opposite of "lashing out".

But you likely can't accept that.
This post was edited on 8/18/25 at 11:05 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139042 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 5:50 am to
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There’s also vetting involved
Right, that was not an issue.

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It’s not something you can decide to do on a whim
Right, that was not an issue either. They claimed to need a monthly minimum commitment, along with implausible demand response expectations.

I did sit in on a couple of classes. Beyond that, the District HR folks were oddly dismissive. Later conversations about that behavior were revealing.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 6:37 am to
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For example, in 2023, there were approximately 215,443 female perpetrators of child abuse compared to 197,690 male perpetrators.
women are more likely to physically abuse their children than men. Sorry that runs counter to your feminist narrative and you would prefer to ignore it.

What's actually interesting is that the statistics show why the destruction of the nuclear family is the main reason for this. Notice that the 86% are abusive biilogical mothers while only 50% are biological fathers. This is due to broken homes where mothers bring abusive non-biological men into the home who then abuse the children. You don't see this with single father households which are safer for children. Yet women still initiate 80% of divorces and courts continue to award them custody overwhelmingly. None of this is good for children.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 8:44 am to
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This is due to broken homes where mothers bring abusive non-biological men into the home who then abuse the children. You don't see this with single father households which are safer for children. Yet women still initiate 80% of divorces and courts continue to award them custody overwhelmingly. None of this is good for children.


Single father homes are better for children than single mother homes in ever statistical metric. This is probably the thing that the courts have screwed up the most. Custody should go to the father in the vast majority of cases even if it has to be forced upon them. The data is clear that it will be a better outcome for the child.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:03 am to
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women are more likely to physically abuse their children than men.


Child abuse consists of more than physical abuse, but the data shows women abuse children at marginally higher rates than men despite being significantly more likely to actually raise their children than men. This isn't the testament you want it to be.

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This is due to broken homes where mothers bring abusive non-biological men into the home who then abuse the children.


And the increased rates at which men abandon their children. They can't abuse a child they don't have anything to do with.

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You don't see this with single father households which are safer for children.
Single father households are safer for children than what?

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Yet women still initiate 80% of divorces


Initiate how? By filing?
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:23 am to
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significantly more likely to actually raise their children than men.


This is a real problem. Men should get custody in the vast majority of divorces. The data is clear on the matter.

Also we need to stop pretending that single moms are heroes. They’re objectively bad at raising children on average.
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Single father households are safer for children than what?

Children of single father households are muh less likely to end up on drugs or in prison.

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Initiate how? By filing?


Yes. Was that some sort of difficult question for you?
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 9:30 am
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:19 am to
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Single father households are safer for children than what?

single mother households.
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Yet women still initiate 80% of divorces


Initiate how? By filing?
ok ima just leave you at the kiddie table eating your crayons. Enjoy
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:02 am to
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Single father households are safer for children than what?

single mother households.


Using what metrics? How did you draw this conclusion?

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ok ima just leave you at the kiddie table eating your crayons. Enjoy



I know it's frustrating when you're asked to explain the basis for your claims.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:08 am to
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Using what metrics? How did you draw this conclusion?

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ok ima just leave you at the kiddie table eating your crayons. Enjoy


I know it's frustrating when you're asked to explain the basis for your claims.
10 secs on Google would relieve your ignorance. Its not my job to deal with your cognitive dissonance but I will give you one last opportunity to read and then FO

Single Father Households Do Vastly Better Than Single Mother — Here’s the Real Reason Why
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:12 am to
I’ve seen stats that something like 75% of kids in juvi are from single mother homes.

We should really be forcing custody on men in most cases of divorce if we actually cared about the child’s future.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:15 am to
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Men should get custody in the vast majority of divorces. The data is clear on the matter.


What is the data?

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Also we need to stop pretending that single moms are heroes. They’re objectively bad at raising children on average.



Single mothers are better at raising kids than absent fathers. No one (or at least extremely few) mothers hope to raise their kid(s) without a father/partner. When the father isn't willing to raise his child, what would you prefer? Foster care for all kids born to deadbeat dads? There aren't nearly enough foster homes to absorb that amount of children.

I don't think you will find anyone anywhere who thinks single mother households are ideal.

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Yes. Was that some sort of difficult question for you?



Divorce is very rarely actually initiated through the filing of legal documents.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:17 am to
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I’ve seen stats that something like 75% of kids in juvi are from single mother homes.

We should really be forcing custody on men in most cases of divorce if we actually cared about the child’s future.


I doubt that most of the kids in juvenile jails have divorced parents. I assume they were born to parents who were likely never together in the first place, or weren't together for very long before the kid was born.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:19 am to
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Single mothers are better at raising kids than absent fathers.


Women and the courts often force the fathers to be absent. Anything less than 50/50 custody is downright evil.

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No one (or at least extremely few) mothers hope to raise their kid(s) without a father/partner.


Then why do they divorce their husbands so often? Women initiate divorce 80% of the time. This tells me they don’t value the family unit.

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When the father isn't willing to raise his child, what would you prefer? Foster care for all kids born to deadbeat dads? There's aren't nearly enough foster homes to absorb that amount of children.


The father shouldn’t have a choice IMO. But failing that I say bring back orphanages, preferably run by faith based entities. I’m not a fan of the foster system.

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Divorce is very rarely actually initiated through the filing of legal documents.


WTF are you talking about? That’s exactly how it’s initiated.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:20 am to
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I doubt that most of the kids in juvenile jails have divorced parents. I assume they were born to parents who were likely never together in the first place, or weren't together for very long before the kid was born.


Okay? What’s your point?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61443 posts
Posted on 8/19/25 at 11:39 am to
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Women and the courts often force the fathers to be absent. Anything less than 50/50 custody is downright evil.


I'm not familiar with research about custody.

Anecdotally, my parents divorced when I was a baby and my dad moved to Seattle. I don't see how 50/50 custody could have worked in a situation like that, with parents who live time zones apart.

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Then why do they divorce their husbands so often? Women initiate divorce 80% of the time. This tells me they don’t value the family unit.



I don't believe that most husbands discover that their marriages are failing when they are served with divorce papers. I don't think the person who files paperwork is indicative of anything significant.

Only one of my close friends is divorced. I'm sure she was the one who filed. Her husband refused to get a job and lied to her about applying for jobs. He even got dressed in a suit, "left for work," and came home 8 hours later at one point. She eventually discovered he lied about graduating from college and was lying about a whole lot of other things, too. You are demonizing her and claiming she doesn't "value the family unit" because she filed for divorce. We have different interpretations.

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The father shouldn’t have a choice IMO. But failing that I say bring back orphanages, preferably run by faith based entities. I’m not a fan of the foster system.

I don't know how someone could force a dad to be present for his kids (or a mother, for that matter). Orphanages would be preferable to single mothers? Maybe they would. l can see some pros to living in an orphanage.

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WTF are you talking about? That’s exactly how it’s initiated.



All the people I know who are divorced knew about the divorce before they were served, but I suppose its possible that most couples don't discuss separating or breaking up before the legal proceedings start.
This post was edited on 8/19/25 at 11:41 am
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