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re: BOOM, New Climate Data Rigging Scandal Rocks US Govt.

Posted on 1/27/14 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by ClydeFrog
Kenya
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/27/14 at 8:09 pm to
What is the reputation of the source? The source needs to be solid to get some of these die hard Libs to think critically.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
64638 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 8:13 pm to
It seems like the people/groups who would need to give credibility to this are the same ones who would be damaged by this gaining credibility.

Not specifically regarding the OP, but things as big as agw are so hard to refute for this very reason.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:22 pm to
The facts should speak for themselve, irregardless of political motivations.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:44 pm to
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S.E.C. Crazy

irregardless


Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:50 pm to
I will answer this with the statement that whatever is said in opposition of your beliefs won't matter. No matter the source, "charts", data, or scientific evaluation. This has become a political issue for Conservatives because your leadership wanted you to believe it.

Don't believe me? Research it yourselves.

So, since you won't research beyond your political safety zones, who fricking cares?

As usual, as someone who actually has taken numerous courses on the actual science instead of reading hack articles, I am out.

Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45924 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:55 pm to
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As usual, as someone who actually has taken numerous courses on the actual science instead of reading hack articles, I am out.













Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5747 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:55 pm to
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An inconvenient untruth

Very good.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11426 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:58 pm to
Meanwhile 2013 was the 4th hottest on record. How about reading stuff from actual climatologists guys?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45924 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 9:59 pm to
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2013 was the 4th hottest on record


Ever? When was the 1st, 2nd and 3rd?
Posted by RTOTA
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2010
588 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:02 pm to
I really haven't done much research on the subject, but from what I've read these guys have about as much credibility as me in the scientific community; they've had nothing published in any major scientific journals and haven't been peer-reviewed.

From the comments:
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I see — you think someone or something is stopping honest scientists from publishing alternative AGW evidence and thus preventing peer review – right?

Some mysterious group of people who have infiltrated all levels of scientific endeavor across all the countries of the world (even to the Vatican) — the “SSSSS” (Super Secret Society of Subverted Scientists). Shazaam thinks the NSA is behind it all. Personally, I think it is Lord Voldemort.


I would put these guys in the same boat as the creationism scientists who think all carbon-dating is a conspiracy and that the earth is only 6,000 years old.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:04 pm to
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I am out.


*drops the mike*

Peace.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
58338 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:25 pm to
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Lays it out very well.
No. It's quackery. You can't draw the conclusion he's claiming from anything provided. He'd need the actual raw data, or at least a sizable portion of it, which he doesn't even have. No BOOM!
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 10:29 pm
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18223 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:26 pm to
Harrumph Consensus harrumph consensus harrumph

I got it down!
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:38 pm to
I love this shite. Doesn't have to be true, but will be remembered for years.

I guarantee most of the people in this thread believe that "climategate" was real. There were emails!!!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162858 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:45 pm to
I need to buy stock in tin foil. What a pathetic group of people here willing to accept the most suspect of sources without a hint of skepticism as long as it supports what they want to believe.
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18223 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:45 pm to
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I love this shite. Doesn't have to be true, but will be remembered for years. I guarantee most of the people in this thread believe that "climategate" was real. There were emails!!!


So you are on record calling out Al Gore as not having enough evidence or his consensus narrative?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
90947 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:49 pm to
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There were emails!!!


That confirmed they fudged the data. That's true.

And confirmed that, rather than combat the skeptics with the scientific method ( you know, with "science") they sought to continue their quasi-scientific political campaign by doing opposition research on McIntyre (the guy that proved the hockey stick was as full of $hit as a Christmas turkey) to smear him in the ever dutiful, ever compliant "press".

That is true also.

But go ahead and pretend there was nothing to Climategate - East Anglia's credibility was irreversibly damaged by all of this.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:54 pm to
You mean we shouldn't accept a GW Denier blog citing a GW Denier's calculations of the world's leading scientists?

What's hilarious is the same people who continuously post threads about how the "mainstream media" including MSNBC, post shite from these clowns or jumped in this thread thumbs up!

Point out that they're jumping on a bullshite bandwagon and they just move on to another bullshite bandwagon, all the while accusing the MSM of being biased.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:56 pm to
So you're a 3 per center as well Ace? Wow.

Is it the fact that you guys are from the South or Republican or both that you buck 97% of the scientists in this field?
LINK
This post was edited on 1/27/14 at 10:57 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
58338 posts
Posted on 1/27/14 at 10:59 pm to
In other news... a survey of Catholic priest revealed 99.8% of them believed in God. Thus, it is proven that God exists.
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