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Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:03 am to upgrayedd
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Obama routinely did this...
And you see how fricked up that is, right?
now its fricked up, then it was hip, cool and totally neccessary but now it's all fricked up...
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:03 am to cwill
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Would someone at least quote this from the op-ed? Am I reading a different article than you and more?
There's some conflation of facts from the New Bob Woodward book ("Fear") and other White House reporting and this particular anonymous op-ed in this thread.
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Can you quote the article where they admit to stealing documents?
That's from excerpts from the Woodward book. He has a PDF of a memo that would've withdrawn the US from a trade agreement but Woodward's sources say Cohn took it off his desk.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:03 am to upgrayedd
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Some of you people just can't handle freedom. It's ok, it's not for everyone.
No one has the freedom to undermine the government from within.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:03 am to upgrayedd
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And you see how fricked up that is, right?
Somewhat, yes.
It’s rife for abuse by a corrupt administration. That is where the courts come in. They are the arbiters. They will rule on the merits. Each case will turn based upon the evidence.
But this is all academic and irrelevant. We’re past this point now. It’s been done. Many times. This is one of the new things that had never been done really before until obama became president. I still don’t think people realize, or maybe they do but just don’t care because they agreed with his politics, all the ways the obama Administration weaponized so many aspects of government.
It’s been done. The toothpaste is out of the tube now. There’s no going back.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:04 am to cwill
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Can you quote the article where they admit to stealing documents?
i wouldn't hold my breath
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:06 am to cwill
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Can you quote the article where they admit to stealing documents?
He's dodged this question multiple times so now I'm thinking he didn't read it correctly
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:06 am to upgrayedd
“Essentially”
“Basically”
“Basically”
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:07 am to More&Les
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now its fricked up, then it was hip, cool and totally neccessary but now it's all fricked up...
You're losing your mind
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:08 am to BobBoucher
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No one has the freedom to undermine the government from within.
Some people can't handle a free press. This is more your speed.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:11 am to 90proofprofessional
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how? with a court order, or some other power of the govt?
Both. Subpoena power, compel testimony, threaten prosecution, spy, prosecute, court order, contempt charge.
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if he had
Not a question of if. He did.
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would it have been right?
Idk. Depends on the case and I haven’t read all of the cases the obama administration prosecuted in this area.
Knowing what we know about the obama Administration, I would not be surprised if more than one of these occasions was not, as you say, right.
Thankfully though we have a judicial branch that does not always let the executive branch do whatever it wants (aside from the secret FISA court).
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:12 am to LuckyTiger
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Both.
are you ever going to link this? where he forced a press member to reveal a source using some claim of legal authority?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:13 am to TigerDoc
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facts from the New Bob Woodward book
Doubt it
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:17 am to upgrayedd
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He's dodged this question multiple times so now I'm thinking he didn't read it correctly
It's the Woodward book getting mixed up with the Op Ed. I did it myself, but with this much shite floating around it's difficult to keep up with.
Chaos and resistance
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:18 am to More&Les
quote:This is completely fabricated
Has admitted to stealing documents off his desk
Your whole premise of some type of crime being committed is an absolute hallucination
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:23 am to JuiceTerry
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an absolute hallucination
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:30 am to More&Les
For the documents thing, yes, it's not his and it's information intended for the President therefore it has the capacity to contain sensitive information that he may not be authorized to even view
Posted on 9/7/18 at 11:33 am to KiwiHead
Except the OP just made that up, so...
Posted on 9/7/18 at 12:16 pm to 90proofprofessional
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are you ever going to link this?
If you read the post, it is from the NYT own editorial page, written by them.
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If Donald Trump Targets Journalists, Thank Obama By James Risen
LINK
There are other reports. Go find them if you want. This isn’t new or disputed info but I’m not surprised that many people are unaware.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 12:18 pm to 90proofprofessional
Here, I’ll post it once again for convenience.
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Over the past eight years, the administration has prosecuted nine cases involving whistle-blowers and leakers, compared with only three by all previous administrations combined. It has repeatedly used the Espionage Act, a relic of World War I-era red-baiting, not to prosecute spies but to go after government officials who talked to journalists. Under Mr. Obama, the Justice Department and the F.B.I. have spied on reporters by monitoring their phone records, labeled one journalist an unindicted co-conspirator in a criminal case for simply doing reporting and issued subpoenas to other reporters to try to force them to reveal their sources and testify in criminal cases.
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